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<blockquote data-quote="looksharp65" data-source="post: 3515513" data-attributes="member: 83771"><p>The focuser is a bit stiffer than I prefer and the hinge tension too loose. I've been given a Vortex Bino-Loc as a gift from a friendly Birdforum reader, and it solves that issue. From Nikon Sverige I was offered a focus knob and hinge adjustment, but I'm not overly bothered by either of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There is a considerable difference between the 6,5x I used and the EDG 7x42. The latter is pickier when it comes to eye placement and focus, but rewards the user with a spectacular view the Fury's nowhere near.</p><p>It is not a lightning-fast warbler binocular like the Fury, but it might be better if the focus knob was less stiff. </p><p>I think of it as an 8x42 with modest AFOV and 6 mm exit pupil. </p><p></p><p>Since there's not much real FOV difference vs. the Meostar 8x32 or (for example) the EDG 8x42, the bird occupies a similar fraction of the FOV.</p><p>The bird <em>and</em> the AFOV are both smaller.</p><p>The EDG is what I use for slower, serious birding at any and all distances, and the Meostar is what I grab for standby when on the go. It is fine for warblering too, after its notorious stiff focuser has loosened up considerably.</p><p>There's no chance that a better 7x40/7x42/7x45 than the EDG is ever going to be made, which was the ultimate reason for me to buy it before it was discontinued. There will always be nice 8x42's if needed.</p><p></p><p>I dismiss the idea that binocular magnification is about resolving power.</p><p>In theory, it's correct. But when I tested the ultra-sharp 10x32 FL against the equally sharp 8x30 E II, it was impossible to find any far and small detail the FL delivered that the E II didn't. Differences were non-existent.</p><p></p><p>I did not mount them on tripods, since that's not how binoculars are used, but I was sitting down with my elbows resting on a shelf, overlooking the Getterön nature reserve, stretching 2,5 kilometers from the observation point. That's the heureka moment when I gave up carrying two binoculars.</p><p></p><p>So, how come 10x binoculars have a market even among birders?</p><p>I think it's about the areal magnification, which, if the binoculars are used correctly with steady hands, delivers a 56% larger object area than an 8x, thus making the detection of ID clues faster. </p><p>It punches you in the face, sort of, but then there are disadvantages like smaller FOV and shallower depth of field.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Among the ones I already own, the Meostar has become the faithful companion I can't let go of. Would I buy it again? Not sure.</p><p>I had mine at a bargain price and the new ones are over-priced considering their colour rendition flaw.</p><p>I'd try to find the Meopta/Cabela's Euro HD 8x32 to see if it's better.</p><p></p><p>Then again, the MHG 8x42 appears very tempting with its low weight, huge FOV and praised optics. Can it take a beating? Probably not like the Meopta so I'd have more peace of mind with the Meopta.</p><p></p><p>//L</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="looksharp65, post: 3515513, member: 83771"] The focuser is a bit stiffer than I prefer and the hinge tension too loose. I've been given a Vortex Bino-Loc as a gift from a friendly Birdforum reader, and it solves that issue. From Nikon Sverige I was offered a focus knob and hinge adjustment, but I'm not overly bothered by either of them. There is a considerable difference between the 6,5x I used and the EDG 7x42. The latter is pickier when it comes to eye placement and focus, but rewards the user with a spectacular view the Fury's nowhere near. It is not a lightning-fast warbler binocular like the Fury, but it might be better if the focus knob was less stiff. I think of it as an 8x42 with modest AFOV and 6 mm exit pupil. Since there's not much real FOV difference vs. the Meostar 8x32 or (for example) the EDG 8x42, the bird occupies a similar fraction of the FOV. The bird [I]and[/I] the AFOV are both smaller. The EDG is what I use for slower, serious birding at any and all distances, and the Meostar is what I grab for standby when on the go. It is fine for warblering too, after its notorious stiff focuser has loosened up considerably. There's no chance that a better 7x40/7x42/7x45 than the EDG is ever going to be made, which was the ultimate reason for me to buy it before it was discontinued. There will always be nice 8x42's if needed. I dismiss the idea that binocular magnification is about resolving power. In theory, it's correct. But when I tested the ultra-sharp 10x32 FL against the equally sharp 8x30 E II, it was impossible to find any far and small detail the FL delivered that the E II didn't. Differences were non-existent. I did not mount them on tripods, since that's not how binoculars are used, but I was sitting down with my elbows resting on a shelf, overlooking the Getterön nature reserve, stretching 2,5 kilometers from the observation point. That's the heureka moment when I gave up carrying two binoculars. So, how come 10x binoculars have a market even among birders? I think it's about the areal magnification, which, if the binoculars are used correctly with steady hands, delivers a 56% larger object area than an 8x, thus making the detection of ID clues faster. It punches you in the face, sort of, but then there are disadvantages like smaller FOV and shallower depth of field. Among the ones I already own, the Meostar has become the faithful companion I can't let go of. Would I buy it again? Not sure. I had mine at a bargain price and the new ones are over-priced considering their colour rendition flaw. I'd try to find the Meopta/Cabela's Euro HD 8x32 to see if it's better. Then again, the MHG 8x42 appears very tempting with its low weight, huge FOV and praised optics. Can it take a beating? Probably not like the Meopta so I'd have more peace of mind with the Meopta. //L [/QUOTE]
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