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<blockquote data-quote="Themoog" data-source="post: 3515698" data-attributes="member: 140925"><p>I wouldn't go as far as to say it was a deal breaker. As was said earlier there's a perfectly legitimate philosophy for not including extra paraphernalia in the compact class. You either buy into it or not. Similarly, I'm extremely unlikely to use whatever bag comes with a bin no matter what. I have accumulated some very useful Lowe Pro pockets and can easily get MOLLE (MOdular Light-weight Load -carrying Equipment) compliant pouches for my 5.11 2 Banger bag if needs be for compacts. Bubble wrap is an excellent, cheap and replacable impact cushion. Also a few sachets of dessicant thrown in for good measure.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, Hawke seem very well respected and plenty of bang for buck. Some of their models have excellent ER I believe. I'm afraid to say, 'Needs must when the devil drives' on this one. The devil has the car keys on this occasion. Yeah, eyes permitting, I would look to avoid having to switch to new glasses for a good few years yet. New, flatter fronted frames however might 'buy' me 2-3 mm in ER. That's about £250 per mm ! Binocular I expect to last at least a decade of use and being jostled around in my EDC. Where's the balance of economies in that equation? I'm too tired to think it through right now.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Working on something is a tremendous way to bomd with it I find. The critical fractions involved in a re-colimation must be nerve wracking. I'll have to see it done on Youtube.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, it is. Less so in an age of auto wb which in theory is all set against the tried and trusted 18% grey card. Nothing can top that and was part of my wider kit as a technician. Caste is different though. On a bin it is what it is. No B&W filter threads for Cokin system rigs etc. I personally favour the sort of National Geographic rich saturation which comes from deliberate under/over exposure on E6/c41. Nowadays it can be graded and histograms biased in a post production suite.</p><p></p><p>On a bin I would be inclined to believe that this saturation comes at the opportunity cost of some brightness. One of the limitations of this bin I have is that it's dawn and dusk performance is pretty impressive at the expense of saturation and, to some extent, contrast. Deep blacks therefore look grey and detail is clipped out at the top end.</p><p></p><p>No getting round the laws of physics right? Colour rendition and how it pleases the eye is as personal as smell or touch. A manufacturer must have to make a judgement call on it's coatings and how this will impinge on the final image.</p><p></p><p>Real? There is, imho, 'real' once you put the acetate in the first bath of dev as you can pull or push the timings to suit. The decisions are creative from the second you hit the shutter button. Same with the second it comes down the firewire cable etc.</p><p>Real, in the moment, with a binocular is as real as it gets. Chose your coatings accordingly right?</p><p></p><p>Tm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Themoog, post: 3515698, member: 140925"] I wouldn't go as far as to say it was a deal breaker. As was said earlier there's a perfectly legitimate philosophy for not including extra paraphernalia in the compact class. You either buy into it or not. Similarly, I'm extremely unlikely to use whatever bag comes with a bin no matter what. I have accumulated some very useful Lowe Pro pockets and can easily get MOLLE (MOdular Light-weight Load -carrying Equipment) compliant pouches for my 5.11 2 Banger bag if needs be for compacts. Bubble wrap is an excellent, cheap and replacable impact cushion. Also a few sachets of dessicant thrown in for good measure. Yes, Hawke seem very well respected and plenty of bang for buck. Some of their models have excellent ER I believe. I'm afraid to say, 'Needs must when the devil drives' on this one. The devil has the car keys on this occasion. Yeah, eyes permitting, I would look to avoid having to switch to new glasses for a good few years yet. New, flatter fronted frames however might 'buy' me 2-3 mm in ER. That's about £250 per mm ! Binocular I expect to last at least a decade of use and being jostled around in my EDC. Where's the balance of economies in that equation? I'm too tired to think it through right now. Working on something is a tremendous way to bomd with it I find. The critical fractions involved in a re-colimation must be nerve wracking. I'll have to see it done on Youtube. Yes, it is. Less so in an age of auto wb which in theory is all set against the tried and trusted 18% grey card. Nothing can top that and was part of my wider kit as a technician. Caste is different though. On a bin it is what it is. No B&W filter threads for Cokin system rigs etc. I personally favour the sort of National Geographic rich saturation which comes from deliberate under/over exposure on E6/c41. Nowadays it can be graded and histograms biased in a post production suite. On a bin I would be inclined to believe that this saturation comes at the opportunity cost of some brightness. One of the limitations of this bin I have is that it's dawn and dusk performance is pretty impressive at the expense of saturation and, to some extent, contrast. Deep blacks therefore look grey and detail is clipped out at the top end. No getting round the laws of physics right? Colour rendition and how it pleases the eye is as personal as smell or touch. A manufacturer must have to make a judgement call on it's coatings and how this will impinge on the final image. Real? There is, imho, 'real' once you put the acetate in the first bath of dev as you can pull or push the timings to suit. The decisions are creative from the second you hit the shutter button. Same with the second it comes down the firewire cable etc. Real, in the moment, with a binocular is as real as it gets. Chose your coatings accordingly right? Tm [/QUOTE]
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