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<blockquote data-quote="Themoog" data-source="post: 3515726" data-attributes="member: 140925"><p>Hermann, GG and Alexis.</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to think Leica have dropped the ball with such a short ER on their 8x32 UV+ in relation to some of other makers who seem to have got it figured at that price point Zeiss/Swaro etc. or, in some cases, much lower.</p><p>I know the UV+ is only a relative tweak rather than a new chassis design and that chassis appears to have been around for quite a while now. It's like their trying to squueze absolutely every drop of performance they can out of that chassic before moving on. Fair play.</p><p></p><p>You don't turn a huge 'ship' like Leica around on a sixpence and their reputation perhaps permits them to sit a little behind the curve and be a little more contemplative about their design priorities. But the same could be said of the other prestige marques. (I may be coming across all anti Leica but in fact I love their classic and timeless designs as I've said elsewhere)</p><p>As I see it (no doubt wrongly) MOST people aren't buying Leica, Zeiss and Swarovski for cutting edge, zeitgeist increments. That's what Nikon apparently does so well. It appears to be more of an 'esprit de corps' thang.</p><p></p><p>ER is just another parameter that offers no interest to non glass wearers but is almost paramount to those that do wear glasses. Even then I believe we generally get more long sighted as we age so it's then about latitude past infinity, as was explained to me earlier, than ER.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hawke offer 18mm of (nominal) ER on their 8x32 Endurance and Sapphire lines and they're not alone.</p><p>I would lay good money Leica ups that metric in the next iteration of the UV and TV lines.....but in their own good time and not because a moany old git in the UK says so eh?</p><p>The lack of x32 in the Nv and Tv lines does however seem, well, a little uncompetitive in 2017 - glass wearer or no.</p><p></p><p>The NVs offer a seemingly generous 19mm albeit on a x42. So maybe 16-17mm on their next (now) tier two and three lines?</p><p>Anyone know when the 2017 brochures and catalogues are due for release across the makers as pdfs?</p><p></p><p>All the best</p><p></p><p>Tm</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Themoog, post: 3515726, member: 140925"] Hermann, GG and Alexis. I'm inclined to think Leica have dropped the ball with such a short ER on their 8x32 UV+ in relation to some of other makers who seem to have got it figured at that price point Zeiss/Swaro etc. or, in some cases, much lower. I know the UV+ is only a relative tweak rather than a new chassis design and that chassis appears to have been around for quite a while now. It's like their trying to squueze absolutely every drop of performance they can out of that chassic before moving on. Fair play. You don't turn a huge 'ship' like Leica around on a sixpence and their reputation perhaps permits them to sit a little behind the curve and be a little more contemplative about their design priorities. But the same could be said of the other prestige marques. (I may be coming across all anti Leica but in fact I love their classic and timeless designs as I've said elsewhere) As I see it (no doubt wrongly) MOST people aren't buying Leica, Zeiss and Swarovski for cutting edge, zeitgeist increments. That's what Nikon apparently does so well. It appears to be more of an 'esprit de corps' thang. ER is just another parameter that offers no interest to non glass wearers but is almost paramount to those that do wear glasses. Even then I believe we generally get more long sighted as we age so it's then about latitude past infinity, as was explained to me earlier, than ER. Hawke offer 18mm of (nominal) ER on their 8x32 Endurance and Sapphire lines and they're not alone. I would lay good money Leica ups that metric in the next iteration of the UV and TV lines.....but in their own good time and not because a moany old git in the UK says so eh? The lack of x32 in the Nv and Tv lines does however seem, well, a little uncompetitive in 2017 - glass wearer or no. The NVs offer a seemingly generous 19mm albeit on a x42. So maybe 16-17mm on their next (now) tier two and three lines? Anyone know when the 2017 brochures and catalogues are due for release across the makers as pdfs? All the best Tm [/QUOTE]
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