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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 3255947" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>Thanks for your kind assistance Martin, but I´ve got them. I simply forgot to close this request of mine! Sorry.</p><p></p><p>Once again I was made uncertain by the <em>Eponym Dictionary of Birds</em> 2014 (<a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=En4wBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT1287&dq=%22H.+J.+Allen+Turner%22&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAWoVChMI5o7r0oL-xgIVS4wsCh3lrQRq#v=onepage&q=%22H.%20J.%20Allen%20Turner%22&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>) <em>versus </em>their own, earlier, <em>Eponym Dictionary of Reptiles </em>2011 (<a href="https://books.google.se/books?id=3ovZoFyLhzkC&pg=PA269&dq=H.+J,+%22Allen+Turner%22+1953&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=rSBIU_GZOszo4QSljIH4Ag&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=H.%20J%2C%20%22Allen%20Turner%22%201953&f=false" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>). Something made them change their minds!? If not a simple typo?</p><p></p><p>But as most claim "1876–1953" (like your last link) I guess it´s based on a simple calculation, backwards made upon exactly that certain first phrase, by Copley, in that particular Obituary:Or the one by A. F. J. Gedye [p.113-114, same volume, from 1954]:Thereby, this far, I have, in short:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>turneri </em></strong></p><p>● Turner's Eremomela <em>Eremomela turneri </em>VAN SOMEREN 1920 as "<em>Eremomela badiceps turneri</em>"</p><p>= the British (later Kenyan?) ornithologist, taxidermist and collector Mr. <strong>Henry J. Allen Turner</strong> (or <strong><em>Allen-Turner</em></strong>) <strong><u>ca</u>. 1876–195<u>3</u></strong> , whose second Christian name (most likely!) was John.</p><p></p><p>He arrived in Kenya in 1908/9, and was from 1911 (or 1914) connected to the Coryndon Museum, in Nairobi, Kenya (officially only part of the staff from 1941-1952) as (at first assistant) Curator … until his death. </p><p></p><p>Also see the following links; <a href="https://archive.org/stream/cbarchive_102151_appreciation1966/XXV_No.3_112__235_1966_MittonObit#page/n0/mode/2up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>, <a href="https://archive.org/stream/cbarchive_102130_reportonthecoryndonmuseum1941/Vol._XVI_No.1__70__58_1941_Coryndon_Museum_Report#page/n0/mode/2up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a> and <a href="http://www.enzimuseum.org/museums-of-kenya/a-history-of-the-national-museums-of-kenya" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a> (see text for; 1911 - 1920), for the latter link also see the text for 1952! The latter clearly erroneous.</p><p></p><p>I have elsewhere seen texts where it is claimed that he was (or him mentioned as being) 78 years old when he died, indicating he could have been born in December of 1875? </p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: RoyalBlue">Who knows?</span></strong></p><p></p><p>For all you other guys out there, who hasn´t seen those three<span style="color: royalblue">*</span> Obituaries, <span style="color: Blue">attached </span>is (a bad photo copy of) a photograph of the man in question (from between the obituaries, in the same journal).</p><p></p><p>---</p><p><span style="color: Blue">*</span><strong>Leakey, L S B</strong>. 1954. Obituary. Journal of the East Africa Natural History Society 22 No. 3 (95): 111.</p><p><strong>Copley, H</strong>. 1954. Obituary. Journal of the East Africa Natural History Society 22 No. 3 (95): 111-112. </p><p><strong>Gedye, A F J</strong>. 1954. A Personal Appreciation … Allen Turner. Journal of the East Africa Natural History Society 22 No. 3 (95): 113-114. </p><p></p><p>PS. I guess (!?) this also goes for the subspecies <em>Colius leucocephalus turneri </em>VAN SOMEREN 1919.</p><p><span style="color: White">---</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 3255947, member: 113430"] Thanks for your kind assistance Martin, but I´ve got them. I simply forgot to close this request of mine! Sorry. Once again I was made uncertain by the [I]Eponym Dictionary of Birds[/I] 2014 ([URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=En4wBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT1287&dq=%22H.+J.+Allen+Turner%22&hl=sv&sa=X&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAWoVChMI5o7r0oL-xgIVS4wsCh3lrQRq#v=onepage&q=%22H.%20J.%20Allen%20Turner%22&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL]) [I]versus [/I]their own, earlier, [I]Eponym Dictionary of Reptiles [/I]2011 ([URL="https://books.google.se/books?id=3ovZoFyLhzkC&pg=PA269&dq=H.+J,+%22Allen+Turner%22+1953&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=rSBIU_GZOszo4QSljIH4Ag&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=H.%20J%2C%20%22Allen%20Turner%22%201953&f=false"][U]here[/U][/URL]). Something made them change their minds!? If not a simple typo? But as most claim "1876–1953" (like your last link) I guess it´s based on a simple calculation, backwards made upon exactly that certain first phrase, by Copley, in that particular Obituary:Or the one by A. F. J. Gedye [p.113-114, same volume, from 1954]:Thereby, this far, I have, in short: [B][I]turneri [/I][/B] ● Turner's Eremomela [I]Eremomela turneri [/I]VAN SOMEREN 1920 as "[I]Eremomela badiceps turneri[/I]" = the British (later Kenyan?) ornithologist, taxidermist and collector Mr. [B]Henry J. Allen Turner[/B] (or [B][I]Allen-Turner[/I][/B]) [B][U]ca[/U]. 1876–195[U]3[/U][/B] , whose second Christian name (most likely!) was John. He arrived in Kenya in 1908/9, and was from 1911 (or 1914) connected to the Coryndon Museum, in Nairobi, Kenya (officially only part of the staff from 1941-1952) as (at first assistant) Curator … until his death. Also see the following links; [URL="https://archive.org/stream/cbarchive_102151_appreciation1966/XXV_No.3_112__235_1966_MittonObit#page/n0/mode/2up"][U]here[/U][/URL], [URL="https://archive.org/stream/cbarchive_102130_reportonthecoryndonmuseum1941/Vol._XVI_No.1__70__58_1941_Coryndon_Museum_Report#page/n0/mode/2up"][U]here[/U][/URL] and [URL="http://www.enzimuseum.org/museums-of-kenya/a-history-of-the-national-museums-of-kenya"][U]here[/U][/URL] (see text for; 1911 - 1920), for the latter link also see the text for 1952! The latter clearly erroneous. I have elsewhere seen texts where it is claimed that he was (or him mentioned as being) 78 years old when he died, indicating he could have been born in December of 1875? [B][COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Who knows?[/COLOR][/B] For all you other guys out there, who hasn´t seen those three[COLOR="royalblue"]*[/COLOR] Obituaries, [COLOR="Blue"]attached [/COLOR]is (a bad photo copy of) a photograph of the man in question (from between the obituaries, in the same journal). --- [COLOR="Blue"]*[/COLOR][B]Leakey, L S B[/B]. 1954. Obituary. Journal of the East Africa Natural History Society 22 No. 3 (95): 111. [B]Copley, H[/B]. 1954. Obituary. Journal of the East Africa Natural History Society 22 No. 3 (95): 111-112. [B]Gedye, A F J[/B]. 1954. A Personal Appreciation … Allen Turner. Journal of the East Africa Natural History Society 22 No. 3 (95): 113-114. PS. I guess (!?) this also goes for the subspecies [I]Colius leucocephalus turneri [/I]VAN SOMEREN 1919. [COLOR="White"]---[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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