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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jring" data-source="post: 3550779" data-attributes="member: 133897">Hi,the optics were not the problem of the Fero D12 - it was usable when fresh from the factory although the old Hensold DF offered a better view.The problem was the Makrolon (a kind of polycarbonate plastic) body and the fact that they weren't designed to be serviceable (specialist labor is very expensive they told the german MoD - just buy a new pair, it's a lot cheaper - unfortunately in reality most of the maintenance was done by conscripts back then, who didn't earn a lot and couldn't really be sacked due to the draft).The result was that my comrades in the maintenance unit who did small optics couldn't do a lot besides cleaning the Fero D12 while many cases of beer changed hands to get pairs of Hensold DF repaired with scrounged parts instead of writing them off and getting a Steiner...Regarding the Nighthunter - at the price point I'd rather get an E2 if I want good optics for occasional birding or save up a bit and get a Swaro Habicht 8x30 in rubber armor if I expect to drag it through the jungle.Joachim, who still has a 50 year old Hensold DF in the car and like it a lot</blockquote>