Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Maybe it's time to delete a small question mark (in the Key) regarding the Scientific name ...
veranii as in:
• the invalid "le Héron Verany, Ardea Veranii" ROUX 182X? [the Plate, No. 316 = here, supposedly of "1829", but the text itself (allegedly published in "1825"), remains unseen (at least by me), if ever published, of course.]
It's claimed to have been published in Ornithologie provençale (in two volumes, 1825–1830) [with the fantastic, loooong sub-title; ou description avec figures coloriées de tous les oiseaux qui habitent constamment la Provence ou qui n'y sont que de passage, suivie d'un abrégé des chasses, de quelques instructions de taxidermie, & d'une table des noms vulgaires], by the French taxidermist Polydore Roux [*], in which the same Surname of the dedicatee was/is mentioned a few times, but only as (nothing but) "Verany" (seemingly always collecting in the surroundings of Nice). All (or most) of it, both Volumes = here.
Another Paper that might be relevant in finding the text part could be: Note sur le Bubulcus ibis ibis (L) Ardea Veranii (Roux). Extrait des Notes de Henri Vaucher 1900–1910 Tanger, Maroc, by A. Vaucher (1927), here (that is, for anyone who understands French). If of any help/use? Or not?
However, in the fairly recent Notices biographiques ... , by Walter Belis (2021**) we find a short text (short, at least compared with some of the other longer texts dealing with other guys) about what I assume is the dedicatee, see page 89, starting with the phrase:
Most of it (except for the question mark, of course) is in line with what's told in today's Key:
Nor have I seen any text/s where this Eponym was written typed (originally, that is) neither as verany nor veranyi, which of course doesn't mean that such versions couldn't be "out there" (only not where I've been) ...
As far as I can tell we've never checked this guy, nor "his" Ibis, here on BirdForum. However, without having seen any official records (neither of his Birth nor Death) I would assume that his Given names ought to be written without hyphen (just as it's done in the Key quote above). Or?
In any case; "Né en 1800 et mort en 1865 à Nice, ..." might give anyone keen (or keener) a clue of where to start looking for some official records ... (though, I will not be me, as I just tend to end up in a mess, whenever I'm dealing with French texts)
If truly a Chevalier (Knight), or not, is also unknown to me (but I assume so, as I can't see any reason why James would have added it, if he wasn't). Though, I couldn't find him in the Léonore database. Nor have I found any other records with an exact date of his Birth ...
🚦 Disclaimer: As Monsieur Belis have made some erroneous claims in the same publication (at least in the entries for a few of the other guys) I would recommend it to be read with care, with some healthy scepticism (alt. skepticism), but while doing so, there are a lot of texts with different stories, and quite a few nice Photos, as well as some Good illustrations to look at.
Thus, take the above for what it's worth (if anything at all), just some observations ...
Also see Bulletin mensuel des naturalistes des Alpes-Maritimes (1912) here:
Good luck to anyone trying to find his exact dates ...
Cheers
Björn
PS. In any case, I'd keep his (given) name unhyphenated.
*(Jean Louis Florent) Polydore Roux (1792–1833).
**Belis, W. 2021 Notices biographiques de naturalistes provençaux et étrangers, published in June 2021, in Faune-PACA Publication No. 107: 1–154. (here)
veranii as in:
• the invalid "le Héron Verany, Ardea Veranii" ROUX 182X? [the Plate, No. 316 = here, supposedly of "1829", but the text itself (allegedly published in "1825"), remains unseen (at least by me), if ever published, of course.]
It's claimed to have been published in Ornithologie provençale (in two volumes, 1825–1830) [with the fantastic, loooong sub-title; ou description avec figures coloriées de tous les oiseaux qui habitent constamment la Provence ou qui n'y sont que de passage, suivie d'un abrégé des chasses, de quelques instructions de taxidermie, & d'une table des noms vulgaires], by the French taxidermist Polydore Roux [*], in which the same Surname of the dedicatee was/is mentioned a few times, but only as (nothing but) "Verany" (seemingly always collecting in the surroundings of Nice). All (or most) of it, both Volumes = here.
Another Paper that might be relevant in finding the text part could be: Note sur le Bubulcus ibis ibis (L) Ardea Veranii (Roux). Extrait des Notes de Henri Vaucher 1900–1910 Tanger, Maroc, by A. Vaucher (1927), here (that is, for anyone who understands French). If of any help/use? Or not?
However, in the fairly recent Notices biographiques ... , by Walter Belis (2021**) we find a short text (short, at least compared with some of the other longer texts dealing with other guys) about what I assume is the dedicatee, see page 89, starting with the phrase:
Most of it (except for the question mark, of course) is in line with what's told in today's Key:
Nor have I seen any text/s where this Eponym was written typed (originally, that is) neither as verany nor veranyi, which of course doesn't mean that such versions couldn't be "out there" (only not where I've been) ...
As far as I can tell we've never checked this guy, nor "his" Ibis, here on BirdForum. However, without having seen any official records (neither of his Birth nor Death) I would assume that his Given names ought to be written without hyphen (just as it's done in the Key quote above). Or?
In any case; "Né en 1800 et mort en 1865 à Nice, ..." might give anyone keen (or keener) a clue of where to start looking for some official records ... (though, I will not be me, as I just tend to end up in a mess, whenever I'm dealing with French texts)
If truly a Chevalier (Knight), or not, is also unknown to me (but I assume so, as I can't see any reason why James would have added it, if he wasn't). Though, I couldn't find him in the Léonore database. Nor have I found any other records with an exact date of his Birth ...
🚦 Disclaimer: As Monsieur Belis have made some erroneous claims in the same publication (at least in the entries for a few of the other guys) I would recommend it to be read with care, with some healthy scepticism (alt. skepticism), but while doing so, there are a lot of texts with different stories, and quite a few nice Photos, as well as some Good illustrations to look at.
Thus, take the above for what it's worth (if anything at all), just some observations ...
Also see Bulletin mensuel des naturalistes des Alpes-Maritimes (1912) here:
🧩
Good luck to anyone trying to find his exact dates ...
Cheers
Björn
PS. In any case, I'd keep his (given) name unhyphenated.
*(Jean Louis Florent) Polydore Roux (1792–1833).
**Belis, W. 2021 Notices biographiques de naturalistes provençaux et étrangers, published in June 2021, in Faune-PACA Publication No. 107: 1–154. (here)
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