Moth ids from herefordshire (1 Viewer)

[Espen]

Hi all, I'm new to mothing and haven't yet got a book,

these are all from my homemade moth trap last night, could anyone help me with ids please? (excuse the dodgy pictures)

thanks

Is pic 1 a red barred tortrix?

 

[Espen]

some more...

 

[Espen]

last pic is a moth which came into the bathroom

 

[Andy1979]

Hi Espen. I don't have any books to hand, so can't help with all the micros, but:

1. Micro.
2. Carcina quercana.
3. Micro.
4. Micro.
5. Small Dusty Wave.
6. Micro.
7. Micro.
8. Marbled Beauty.
9. Micro.
10. Micro.
11. Heart and Dart.
12. Micro.
13. Micro.
14. Cabbage Moth.

Cheers,

Andy M.

 

[Espen]

thanks

 

[gnome]

thanks

Some of the micros for you, at least to narrow them down a bit:
3. Bee Moth
7. Eudonia/Scoparia sp.
10. One of the grass moths, e.g. Garden Grass Veneer but it's worn and you really need a side shot
12. Eudonia/Scoparia sp.
13. probably Brown House Moth

Adam

 

[Espen]

Some of the micros for you, at least to narrow them down a bit:
3. Bee Moth
7. Eudonia/Scoparia sp.
10. One of the grass moths, e.g. Garden Grass Veneer but it's worn and you really need a side shot
12. Eudonia/Scoparia sp.
13. probably Brown House Moth

Adam

thanks

 

[Tri-Counties Birder]

1. Red-barred Tortrix
4. possibly a Paraswammerdamia nebulella in a poor state
6. Blastobasis adustella
7. + 12. Dipleurina lacustrata I reckon
9. Celypha lacunana
10. probably Chrysoteuchia culmella

I agree with the others.

 

[Espen]

Thanks for the ids, here are 3 more from this morning in the trap

1) ??
2) is it another small dusty wave?
3) I'm presuming the large one to the left is another bee moth, but what's the small one to the right?

cheers

 

[Andy1979]

1. Common Footman. Doesn't look right for Scarce.
2. Double-striped Pug.
3. Yes to the Bee moth. Not sure on the other.

Cheers,

Andy M.

 

[Tri-Counties Birder]

1. Those wing-tips look pretty curled over to me, but not the best angle to be sure.
2. Doesn't look like Double-striped to my eye. Not the right shape either. Hard to be sure, but i'd probably go Common for that.
3. I'm not sure how variable Bee Moth is in size, but the small one does look like another Bee.

 

[Andy1979]

I did think the Footman's wings were pulled in a bit, but without seeing how much from on top and with the left wing covering the right, it's hard to see how strong the yellow border is. If there are any other pics, it should help to determine between Common and Scarce Footman Espen.

Sean, as usual, I think you're right with the Pug. The markings have faded a bit, but I initally thought it had a DSP shape. Probably not the more I look at it!

 

[Espen]

thanks both for the ids, I've got this picture of the footman, and another if needed.

 

[Tri-Counties Birder]

Doesn't really help. I still think Scarce (largely based on the first shot).

 

[Andy1979]

Looks flatter to me in the second pic, more like Common...

 

[Tri-Counties Birder]

Take a look at my shot of a Scarce. I feel that the angles at which the photos were taken are very similar. Look at the amount of 'grey' visible towards the end of the moth - almost identical.

Having said all that, the yellow-edge does seem narrower on mine.

Anyway, it doesn't really matter a great deal as both are common species, and no doubt Epsen will (or already has) catch both.

 

[Andy1979]

I see what you mean. I would be inclined to go with you Sean anyway, on the basis that you don't get many wrong!

Andy M

 

[Espen]

Ok, well I've got this last shot as well.

Cheers

 

[jforgham]

Common footman.
regards,
Jono

 

[Brian Stone]

Second shot shows the grey extending onto the front of the thorax so Common Footman.