Moth, Preston Lancashire (1 Viewer)

[Deb335077]

Please help with the id for this moth, taken last October in Lancashire

thank you

 

[dantheman]

Grey Pine or Spruce Carpet I think ...

Grey Pine Carpet Adult | UKmoths

ukmoths.org.uk

 

[aeshna5]

Spruce Carpet for me.

 

[Farnboro John]

Spruce Carpet for me.

Based on? I get a lot of Grey Pine Carpet and very few Spruce, so I have a real interest in the reasons - but I think it is very helpful to those who are struggling with an ID if whoever offers a diagnosis gives their reasons (especially because sometimes two people give different diagnoses!)

Cheers

John

 

[dantheman]

https://www.norfolkmoths.co.uk/index.php?bf=17680&abh=70.081&prev=yes Spruce

https://www.norfolkmoths.co.uk/index.php?bf=17690&abh=70.079&next=yes Grey Pine

Lots of images on links above. I'd go with Spruce too if pushed - grey tones as opposed to the orange brown cross band of Grey Pine. 'Shaggier' background texture. Stronger black outlines to the panels in the crossband.

 

[aeshna5]

I think it is the outline of the central band that makes this Spruce as it is less smooth than Grey Pine. They can be tricky.

 

[dantheman]

I think it is the outline of the central band that makes this Spruce as it is less smooth than Grey Pine. They can be tricky.

That may be more diagnostic - ties in with the 'lozenges' in the panels I was referring to. Grey Pine looks a lot cleaner/smoother/finer.

 

[rosaria]

A bit hard to tell on that photo, but I think I can see a dark streak running from the apex, and continued between the the outer main block and the lozenges. That and the colouring suggests Juniper Carpet to me.

 

[dantheman]

A bit hard to tell on that photo, but I think I can see a dark streak running from the apex, and continued between the the outer main block and the lozenges. That and the colouring suggests Juniper Carpet to me.

Now that you point it out ...