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Message: <blockquote data-quote="chris3871" data-source="post: 1225894" data-attributes="member: 13200">I still don't think it'd be too late for them to raise young in this nest, but if they are naive young pair as you suggest (which seems very likely) it'll probably take them a lot of dilly-dallying before they get that done too! I wonder if this is normal behaviour for first-year breeders? The only other thing I was wondering is what has the weather been like down your way, Wendy? If it's been really dry they might be struggling to find enough mud?Nearly all our martins seem to have their nests finished, a few pairs are dawdling like yours. Most i'd guess are at the chick stage, but I've not seen any fledglings on the wire. The swallows are out the nest, they may even be considering a second brood by the looks of things. Funnily, they've decided on a different nest for the second brood- they're using the one from last year instead.</blockquote>