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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CARERY" data-source="post: 3481920" data-attributes="member: 140105">After more than 100 posts people seem to have lost interest with this bird. Pity, but understandable as it's hard to catch up with all that has been written...The seemingly rather short tail is a feature also I was going to mention. I guess for a "normal" YH/PB it would be too short. But I've no experience with YH ssp. erythrogenys and only rely on photos for comparison. Then, of course, you may have the problem with the angle the photo was taken from. As for the mystery-bunting it was photographed directly from lateral, so the short tail should be real. But can you be sure? Photos can even be more misleading when it comes to relative-to-each-other-proportions. In my experience you can never be 100% sure if the bird really is in the pose you assume. Moreover it can be stretched or contracted. In my opinion measurements should only be take on museums-specimens or living birds in hands and not from pictures. E.g. the video-grab images Murat uploaded earlier (post #67) show bird 1 that seems quite short-tailed whereas 3+4 (assumingly the same individual) seem very long-tailed (bird 2 should be excluded due to the angle). Are they different YH ssp.? I really don't know.I'm uncertain witch bunting sp. (or ssp.) we have here! But I couldn't believe that Corn Bunting is the most probable guess for most! I really tried to find pictures/videos with CBs showing a narrow, lighter coloured crown- or at least nape-stipe. I didn't succeed! So at least CB can be excluded!Eventually I must say I learnt a lot, but as suggested before, possibly the bird should better fly off undetermined. Sorry I'm out here...</blockquote>

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