Jacana
Will Jones
This was a repeat7303. Pale Yellow Robin
This was a repeat7303. Pale Yellow Robin
I've been waiting to play my last one for ages! I'm actually surprised you've not played it yourself...One more bird to play, if anyone fancies playing something sensible, so I can link to it😀
I haven't added this as you followed yourself, so feel free to play it again7283 Red-tailed Vanga
I was expecting thatjust had a chance to read through the reverse list as far as owls, and I think I've found two more![]()
I've only seen Common Ostrich as far as I understand it. Unless I've seen introduced Somali Ostrich somewhere (which I don't count)I was expecting thatwhat about Somali Ostrich, that I mentioned previously?
I just gave another look to the IOC treatment of Ostriches, and now I see where my idea came from. IOC actually presents a rather confusing treatment and it should be reviewed. Currently they show it as follows:I've only seen Common Ostrich as far as I understand it. Unless I've seen introduced Somali Ostrich somewhere (which I don't count)
| 7 | Common Ostrich | Struthio camelus | Linnaeus, 1758 | AF : w, c, e, sw | TAX | See Miller et al. (2011) re genetic structure and phylogeography of ostrich populations. | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 8 | † | S. c. syriacus | Rothschild, 1919 | Syrian and Arabian deserts | |||
| 9 | S. c. camelus | Linnaeus, 1758 | s Morocco and Mauritania to s Egypt, Eritrea and n, w Ethiopia, s to Cameroon and n Uganda | ||||
| 10 | Somali Ostrich | Struthio molybdophanes | Reichenow, 1883 | AF : Somalia and n Kenya | AS | Genetic analyses support species recognition of Somali Ostrich and perhaps other subspecies groups (Miller et al. 2011). | |
| 11 | S. c. massaicus | Neumann, 1898 | s Kenya and c Tanzania | ||||
| 12 | |||||||
| 13 | S. c. australis | Gurney Sr, 1868 | s Africa |
That must be an old checklist. V10.2 shows this:I just gave another look to the IOC treatment of Ostriches, and now I see where my idea came from. IOC actually presents a rather confusing treatment and it should be reviewed. Currently they show it as follows:
7 Common Ostrich Struthio camelus Linnaeus, 1758 AF : w, c, e, sw TAX See Miller et al. (2011) re genetic structure and phylogeography of ostrich populations. 8 † S. c. syriacus Rothschild, 1919 Syrian and Arabian deserts 9 S. c. camelus Linnaeus, 1758 s Morocco and Mauritania to s Egypt, Eritrea and n, w Ethiopia, s to Cameroon and n Uganda 10 Somali Ostrich Struthio molybdophanes Reichenow, 1883 AF : Somalia and n Kenya AS Genetic analyses support species recognition of Somali Ostrich and perhaps other subspecies groups (Miller et al. 2011). 11 S. c. massaicus Neumann, 1898 s Kenya and c Tanzania 12 13 S. c. australis Gurney Sr, 1868 s Africa
So, Somali Ostrich is monotypic, but they place S. c. massaicus and S. c. australis after this species, while retaining them as subspecies of S. camelus. By reading Miller et al. 2011 (here) it becomes clear that 3 groups are recognized there, and massaicus/australis may represent a 3rd Ostrich species (or 2 further separate species). However, the way IOC is presenting the info it seems both are subspecies of Somali (which has no subspecies!).
So, IOC doesn't split the 3rd group yet (so no English name), but places that 3rd group away from the other Struthio camelus subspecies (while retaining them as subspecies of S. camelus), making a sandwich of Somali Ostrich. Clear as mud?
It seems this is a temporary treatment by IOC, but looks rather confusing.
So, in short, forget about my suggestion of Somali Ostrich!![]()
| camelus | Linnaeus, 1758 | Common Ostrich | AF | w, c, e, sw | |
| syriacus † | Rothschild, 1919 | Syrian and Arabian deserts | |||
| camelus | Linnaeus, 1758 | s Morocco and Mauritania to s Egypt, Eritrea and n, w Ethiopia, s to Cameroon and n Uganda | |||
| massaicus | Neumann, 1898 | s Kenya and c Tanzania | |||
| australis | Gurney Sr, 1868 | s Africa | |||
| molybdophanes | Reichenow, 1883 | Somali Ostrich | AF | Somalia and n Kenya |
Thanks Will, that is the treatment that makes sense.That must be an old checklist. V10.2 shows this:
camelus Linnaeus, 1758 Common Ostrich AF w, c, e, sw syriacus † Rothschild, 1919 Syrian and Arabian deserts camelus Linnaeus, 1758 s Morocco and Mauritania to s Egypt, Eritrea and n, w Ethiopia, s to Cameroon and n Uganda massaicus Neumann, 1898 s Kenya and c Tanzania australis Gurney Sr, 1868 s Africa molybdophanes Reichenow, 1883 Somali Ostrich AF Somalia and n Kenya
7316. Fiery Topaz7315 Garnet Robin
Bird 6924 unfortunately7318 Emerald-bellied Puffleg
sorry!Bird 6924 unfortunately
I've added my own version, which can be found on the second tab in the Google sheet.Have we got an up to date reverse list? And are we anywhere near a family list like the order list? I so want to play Sapayoa, but it’s not easy to find a link!