What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
New review items
Latest activity
Forums
New posts
Search forums
Gallery
New media
New comments
Search media
Reviews
New items
Latest content
Latest reviews
Latest questions
Brands
Search reviews
Opus
Birds & Bird Song
Locations
Resources
Contribute
Recent changes
Blogs
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
ZEISS
ZEISS Nature Observation
The Most Important Optical Parameters
Innovative Technologies
Conservation Projects
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is
absolutely FREE
!
Register for an account
to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.
Forums
Birding
Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature
Bird Name Etymology
Names lacking in the Key
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="l_raty" data-source="post: 3628192" data-attributes="member: 24811"><p>Indeed: it's the bird that would come from Grenoble; without being really explicit, the sentence might be read as implying that it had to travel to reach Drevon, hence that the latter resided elsewhere (at this time).</p><p></p><p>OTOH, Bouteille 1843 [<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=e-A4rTGf2fwC&pg=PA506&dq=drevon" target="_blank">here</a>] mentioned a bird specimen (a white yellowhammer) that he said was "chez M. Drevon, à Grenoble" = at M. Drevon's, in Grenoble. In Vol. 2 of the same work [<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=OwveLtSQ338C&pg=PA330&dq=drevon" target="_blank">here</a>], Bouteille cited Drevon again, adding that he was "gantier" = a glover... But this was almost a quarter of a century earlier than Degland & Gerbe's work, and might as well be entirely unrelated to what these authors reported, I think.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In this work (Berlioz 1948), Drevon's name is quoted from the registers of the collections of the Muséum, which said that a particular hummingbird specimen had been "acquis par échange de M. Drevon" = acquired by exchange from M. Drevon in 1864.</p><p>The label of the same specimen was also quoted by Simon 1923 [<a href="https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/51976754" target="_blank">here</a>] as reading: "<em>Ornismyia</em>, <em>Eucephala smaragdocœrulea</em> Gould, acquis en échange de M. Drevon en 1864, Brésil." = <em>Ornismyia</em>, <em>Eucephala smaragdocœrulea</em> Gould, acquired in exchange from M. Drevon in 1864, Brazil.</p><p></p><p>In [<a href="https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q="drevon"+naturaliste" target="_blank">Google Books</a>], several publications from the years 1850-60 mention a Drevon, naturaliste, à Paris.</p><p></p><p>A (less successful?) colleague of Parzudaki?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="l_raty, post: 3628192, member: 24811"] Indeed: it's the bird that would come from Grenoble; without being really explicit, the sentence might be read as implying that it had to travel to reach Drevon, hence that the latter resided elsewhere (at this time). OTOH, Bouteille 1843 [[URL="https://books.google.com/books?id=e-A4rTGf2fwC&pg=PA506&dq=drevon"]here[/URL]] mentioned a bird specimen (a white yellowhammer) that he said was "chez M. Drevon, à Grenoble" = at M. Drevon's, in Grenoble. In Vol. 2 of the same work [[URL="https://books.google.com/books?id=OwveLtSQ338C&pg=PA330&dq=drevon"]here[/URL]], Bouteille cited Drevon again, adding that he was "gantier" = a glover... But this was almost a quarter of a century earlier than Degland & Gerbe's work, and might as well be entirely unrelated to what these authors reported, I think. In this work (Berlioz 1948), Drevon's name is quoted from the registers of the collections of the Muséum, which said that a particular hummingbird specimen had been "acquis par échange de M. Drevon" = acquired by exchange from M. Drevon in 1864. The label of the same specimen was also quoted by Simon 1923 [[URL="https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/51976754"]here[/URL]] as reading: "[I]Ornismyia[/I], [I]Eucephala smaragdocœrulea[/I] Gould, acquis en échange de M. Drevon en 1864, Brésil." = [I]Ornismyia[/I], [I]Eucephala smaragdocœrulea[/I] Gould, acquired in exchange from M. Drevon in 1864, Brazil. In [[URL='https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q="drevon"+naturaliste']Google Books[/URL]], several publications from the years 1850-60 mention a Drevon, naturaliste, à Paris. A (less successful?) colleague of Parzudaki? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes...
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Birding
Bird Taxonomy and Nomenclature
Bird Name Etymology
Names lacking in the Key
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more...
Top