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Need help making first digiscoping purchase (1 Viewer)

jlacasci

Member
United States
I'm an experienced photographer going to visit Yellowstone. I know my Canon Mark iii with 400mm and 1.4 teleconverter won't have the reach I want. I will be purchasing a Kowa TSN 883 88mm with their 25-60 eye piece. Tripod will be Manfrotto MT190CXPRO4 carbon. Head is MVH500AH fluid head flat base. I'm also getting Kowa TSN-PA7 and T-mount ring for my EOS 1d Mark iii. Finally my questions, would you change the tripod or head? If so to what? My phone is a Samaung Galaxy S21 Ultra, no one has a holder to digiscope before I leave in July. What would you suggest for my phone, or should I just stick with the camera. I'm also getting the long plate for the head to help with balance 500plong video plate. What am I missing? Thanks, Joe
 

WoodpeckerMaster

Well-known woodpecker
United States
personally, i'd change it depending on what you want to photograph. if you want the better quality, headpiece. if you want more photos or many other things, tripod. it's all up to you!
 

jlacasci

Member
United States
Thank you for the reply. My specialty has been sports photography, so hand holding a Mark iii with a 24-70 or a 2nd Mark iii with 400 mm on a Gitzo monopod. I've never had to deal with the stability concerns of digiscoping. I've read that the head I selected is a good choice. What tripod would you suggest? Also, should I even worry about a universal adapter for my phone? Thanks.
 

WoodpeckerMaster

Well-known woodpecker
United States
I'd like to help with that first question... but the only tripod I use is one from Manfretto and it's pretty good, but it's the only one I've ever used, so I can't make a valid statement. I also don't know what a Universal Adapter is, can you explain?
 

jlacasci

Member
United States
I should add that the scope setup will be used for wildlife in the Yellowstone valleys. I will have plenty of lenses with my camera bodies for other photos. I intend to use the scope, tripod and head for birding for year's to come.
 

WoodpeckerMaster

Well-known woodpecker
United States
I would have the scope and head if you plan on taking wildlife photos, and if you can find one that fits your budget and is good quality, perhaps purchase it too. Of course, don't base everything on what I say... a teenage photographer is not the most reliable source.
 

jlacasci

Member
United States
Sure. Many sites have been suggesting attaching your phone to the scope. The company Phonescope is the predominant player in this space. They won't have a holder for my Samsung galaxy s21 ultra until August, this the universal adapter. Since I've never used a phone or camera on a scope I assume the camera is a better option even though the shutter and mirror may introduce some vibration over a phone.
 

WoodpeckerMaster

Well-known woodpecker
United States
well, there are more editing options if you used a phone, like cropping and stuff, which can fix problems... but a camera can make more professional photos and, personally, using a real camera feels cooler than a phone. so, i would do the camera, but it's all up to you.
 

jlacasci

Member
United States
I appreciate your honesty. Thanks. Although I'm an experienced photographer, I've never digiscoped before. And being much, much older my total budget for the setup is $5,000. I intend to make years of use of this investment once I retire in 5 years.
 

WoodpeckerMaster

Well-known woodpecker
United States
oh, well, i feel like since you're an adult, long-time photographer, and i'm just a birder who happened to start taking pictures of birds last week, it's a better idea not to rely on my opinion. i have appreciated talking with you about this! funnily enough, i think i learned more about photography than you did in this thread... have a great day, and i really hope you enjoy your trip to yellowstone :)
 

horukuru

Here I Come !
The tripod and head is a good one and with the ordered long plate, you shouldn't have any problem to balance your scope + camera on the scope. The universal phone adapter, can get it from Phoneskop.

Is your scope straight or angled? Happy birding and digiscoping!

P/s I'm a sport photographer too mostly for rugby :D
 

jlacasci

Member
United States
Thank you. I decided to go with the Manfrotto 057 3 section rapid instead of the 055. It may be overkill. But it will be more stable than the 055 no matter what I put on it. It should at nearly double the price.
 

horukuru

Here I Come !
Thank you. I decided to go with the Manfrotto 057 3 section rapid instead of the 055. It may be overkill. But it will be more stable than the 055 no matter what I put on it. It should at nearly double the price.
Heavier is better to stabilised the scope and when you do digiscoping, the main killer of sharp images is if the support is not good.
 

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