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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CliveP" data-source="post: 3369452" data-attributes="member: 85835">Morning. Wow did I have a crap drunken sleep.There is something strange about that Bresser or something that bugs my eyes. It's different to all of my other bins is some way. From indoors the view is pretty flat and with good definition in the right light etc but it just lacks width and there is a lot of eye relief but with the eyecups extended it can be like looking down a tunnel. I do like small bins and today I will be taking out my Carson 8x22 rev porro and my Vistron 8x25 to see how they go.I haven't really had a good try out with the Carson but I shortened the focus wheel a little and it's looking more promising and the Vistron I actually took the rubber eyecups off (well the glue came loose) and I discovered I could take the metal sliding cups off and up end them and get an extra bit of extension on them and the ideal eye placement. I think they had been assembled incorrectly upside down in the manufacture. Definite improvement with only this small change. You can't buy them anymore ( the Vixen Atrek seems the equivalent ) but it got me thinking about the Vistron Pro 8x32 which is still only 11cm long (shorter than the Bresser 8x28) and light but with only 6.5 deg fov. I think the Nikon 7s Prostaff 10x could be a good replacement but then it's getting bigger than I would like. I really do like the size of my Vistron 8x25 compared to my Nikon M7 10x30 for my on the go cycling trips. The Bresser is somewhere in between and then for even smaller I think these reverse porros are actually pretty good. A lot more distortion than my Bresser but I pretty much already prefer the Carson 8x22 to the Bresser even though the Bresser is a bit better in lower light.I'm wary now though of anything like the Bresser 8x28 as even if it was a little bit better I still don't think I'd ever like it very much. It would definitely need to be a lot better. I guess it is something to do with the design restrictions or something for this size of bin but it's very amazing in how big  a difference there can be just going to the 32mm at least on paper. Didn't you return the Diamondback 32mm though? I guess just down to a size choice and you already having a good 32mm.I definitely like the Vistron 8x25 over the Bresser so I would say I would favour the 8x32 Vistron Pro (or just Vistron) over the Diamondback 8x28 and the Vistron is even more compact yet with the bigger objective. It's an interesting one.</blockquote>

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