I've fallen in love with the 10x42SV I bought a couple of months ago. For the wide open places I glass, extensively for sometimes hours at a time, off a tripod, and after reading all of these posts on the virtues of that big 10x50SV, I'm wondering if it will suit me even better? You guys really have me wondering, and wanting to try it out.
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For the wide open spaces you are talking abut the 10x50 SV would be great. 8mm is a big move up in aperture. It is like going from a 25mm to a 32mm. It does make a difference in eye positioning comfort, glare resistance, and brightness under low light conditions. I guarantee you will like them better. A 10x is nice wnen you are glassing distant objects because it gives you more reach than an 8x. Since Swaro's have such good resale you could probably trade up for a few hundred dollars.
brocknroller
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Are you married, and if so, does your wife know you're having an affair?
"Oh, sure, you won't stay inside and watch 'Beaches' with me, but you always have time to keep her close to your heart!" :smoke:
10x50s are my favorite configuration, or at least they were before I had a shoulder operation, now 17.5 oz. 8x32 roofs work better for me, and I think know which ones I mean. I'll send you a PM about getting those back to you.
Try out the 10x50 SV EL and bring your plastic, because I got a feeling you're going home with them. If Dennis liked them more than his beloved 8x32 SV EL, they must be really something!
Now get back inside and finish Beaches and take some Kleenex with you!
Brock
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But having both is better!
The 8x32 and 10x50 sv's are an excellent tandem in my opinion.
Bryce...
The 8x32 and 10x50 sv's are an excellent tandem in my opinion.
Bryce...
So you`re inferring that Swarovski can now bend the laws of physics and give the SV better dof than other 10`s available, yes in very bright conditions the dof will be at its greatest but its still too shallow for me, why I generally don`t care for 10 power.
The afov may feel generous but it won`t help you find that fast moving warbler 8m away in the scrub.
Get a 10x50 by all means, but keep the 8x32 IMHO.
Kammerdiner
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I have a mantra that might help you resist:
Om. 35 ounces is too much.
Om. You're gonna feel that bud, around the neck, in about four hours.
And I don't like harnesses either. Om.
And you'll want to stuff it in the pack by then. Om.
Om. Can we stop for lunch now, I'm getting very hungry. Om.
I'll let you know if it works.
HighNorth
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I have a mantra that might help you resist:
Om. 35 ounces is too much.
Om. You're gonna feel that bud, around the neck, in about four hours.
And I don't like harnesses either. Om.
And you'll want to stuff it in the pack by then. Om.
Om. Can we stop for lunch now, I'm getting very hungry. Om.
I'll let you know if it works.
Throw in the quirky ergonomics too, which are not for everyone!
HN
Do you REALLY need all that DOF when birding? I mean maybe for finding warblers it helps but isn't the view through the binoculars on that bird you have been looking for all day what counts? The 10x will without a doubt give you the best view of the bird once centered in the FOV showing way more detail than the 8x. I have three 8x's. The SV 8x32, Nikon EII 8x30 and the Leica 8x32 Trinovid BA and one 10x the Canon 10x42 IS-L. I admit 8x is probably the best all around magnification but on the other hand the 10x will give you a better view of the bird even though he may be a little harder to find. Even though I REALLY like the Swarovski 10x50 SV It would replace my Canon 10x42 IS for a 10x and I really don't think it would outperform my Canon especially hand held. On a tripod or with IS you get 30-40 % more resolution at 10x and the Canon 10x42 IS out resolves even the Nikon 10x42 SE HANDHELD so I doubt the the big Swarovski would outperform the Canon. I really like pushing that IS button and getting a tripod mounted view. The Canon IS is only 3 oz. heavier than the Swarovski 10x50 also so the weight is not that much more. I have tried the Canon's in the past and give up on them because of their weight and blocky shape but every time I use it I think to myself. This is the best view of any of my binoculars and I see more detail. I know the warranty is crap on the Canon's and it is a pain changing the batteries but at the end of the day the view is astonishing and rock solid.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=297776
http://www.lintuvaruste.fi/hinnasto/optiikkaarvostelu/optics_15_canon10x42L_IS_WP_GB.shtml
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I thought the ergonomics were very good for as big as they are. But that is a very personal thing.Throw in the quirky ergonomics too, which are not for everyone!
HN
henry link
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When the 50mm EL SVs were announced I had hoped there would be an 8x50. In daylight, that configuration should produce lower aberrations, a more relaxed view and better freedom from glare than the 10x50 or any other SV EL model. Alas, according to Clay Taylor no 8x50 is planned.
IMO, that leaves the new 8x56 SLC as the Swarovski binocular with the highest potential for unusually fine image quality in daylight. Too bad it's not available in the US.
IMO, that leaves the new 8x56 SLC as the Swarovski binocular with the highest potential for unusually fine image quality in daylight. Too bad it's not available in the US.
I know what you mean. I recently was hiking up in Rocky Mountain National Park to Fern Lake which is about 8 miles round trip and I carried my 22 oz. Leica Trinovids 8x32 around my neck with a regular Vero Vellini foam strap and by the time I was through I was carrying them in my hand because I go tired of them hanging around my neck and sweating. I probably should have just put them on my belt with the waist loop on the case. But you are correct when you are looking at these bigger aperture binoculars you have to think about how you use them. There is no doubt the view through the SV 10x50 is gorgeous but can you really handle the weight on a long hike through a hot canyon in Utah? The Leica Trinovids 8x32 worked beautifully at RNP though giving me beautiful views of Elk, Big Horn Sheep and a pack of Coyotes that was moving through a valley. The view with them over Trail Ridge Road which is about 13,000 feet looking into valleys at the glacial lakes was really memorable.I have a mantra that might help you resist:
Om. 35 ounces is too much.
Om. You're gonna feel that bud, around the neck, in about four hours.
And I don't like harnesses either. Om.
And you'll want to stuff it in the pack by then. Om.
Om. Can we stop for lunch now, I'm getting very hungry. Om.
I'll let you know if it works.
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Dennis,
So you went a got a second pair of Canon 10x42's? What gives? The first time you had them, you sold them in like a month? Let's see how long it takes now.
Kimmo
P.s. Get yourself some Energizer lithium AA batteries. They weigh half as much as NiMH batteries, work better in the Canon and last ridiculously long.
So you went a got a second pair of Canon 10x42's? What gives? The first time you had them, you sold them in like a month? Let's see how long it takes now.
Kimmo
P.s. Get yourself some Energizer lithium AA batteries. They weigh half as much as NiMH batteries, work better in the Canon and last ridiculously long.
Yes. HaHa. I just can't give up on them. They are kind of pain to use being so heavy and blocky but I just like the stabilized view. When I want a 10x for more detail I grab them if I am not hiking too far. I can't personally hold a 10x that steady. It all comes down to how steady your hands are. I have the Energizer lithium AA batteries in them and I have the snap on lens caps which stay on much better. I am getting used to their size and weight better now. I engage the IS button and then bring them to my eyes and it stays on for about 5 minutes. When I return them to my chest the IS turns off in a about 30 seconds.
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If you only had two binoculars those two would be hard to beat. Get the big 10x out when you are not hiking a long distance and you want more detail or a brighter image at dusk. The 10x50 SV would also be a fantastic hunting binocular.
There is usually quite a few pairs of the Swarovski 8x56 SLC on Ebay shipping from Germany for about $1700.00. I agree about the optics. I have heard the optics are astonishing on them. With a 7mm exit pupil they would be remarkably glare free and have very comfortable eye placement.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swarovski-S...-neu-in-OVP-/131568927088?hash=item1ea21e8170
I do, which is why I`d like an Alpha 7x35, (I`v given up on 7x42`s cos of the weight) any increase in detail is lost on me if the 10x is handheld, and I use a scope for detail.
That makes sense. You are using the 7x for spotting the birds and the spotting scope for getting the close detailed view. What spotter do you use? Do you carry it all the time birding?
What is the current model? Haven't they been discontinued?
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