New bin, EL10x50SV (1 Viewer)

[Uhu74]

I got my 10*50 SV just one hour ago. I didn't have real chance to look through them as it is already 10 pm and absolutely dark here. I did feel them in my hand and I was surprised to see that it didn't feel heavy, this is just the first impression of it. I think I should be able to manage its weight without any problem. I will update here once I look through them

Sanjay

Wel done Sanjay, you definitely will be a happy camper when you try them tomorrow|=)| I'm sure your first thoughts will be "wow, this is awesome":t:
Happy days! Looking forward to your opinion:t:

cheers, Gijs

 

[HighNorth]

Sanjay;

We are delighted that you have finally made a purchase, and that your painful time of vacillating is over.

Amen! :t:

 

[HighNorth]

I got my 10*50 SV just one hour ago. I didn't have real chance to look through them as it is already 10 pm and absolutely dark here.

Try looking at the stars, if it's overcast where you are. You will be surprised!

HN

 

[EnjoyTheView]

.... I didn't have real chance to look through them as it is already 10 pm and absolutely dark here. ....

Isn't that when they are supposed to do something special that other bins can't?

 

[jgraider]

Well, I caved, succombed to the peer pressure, folded up like a lawn chair (hanging my head in shame)..........I ordered a pair today myself. |;|


Sanjay, I'm looking forward to your review. Congrats!

 

[Pileatus]

Well, I caved, succombed to the peer pressure, folded up like a lawn chair (hanging my head in shame)..........I ordered a pair today myself. |;|


Sanjay, I'm looking forward to your review. Congrats!

Thank you!
Those commissions just keep rolling in...
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=293766

Seriously, enjoy. I just checked out the atmospherics in preparation for the Perseids and it should be a great show from the driveway. The 10X50 SV is so enjoyable I might forgo a few hours sleep and just stargaze. More than once I've had meteors streak by in my field of view, many of which startled me.

 

[Theo98]

I got my 10*50 SV just one hour ago. I didn't have real chance to look through them as it is already 10 pm and absolutely dark here. I did feel them in my hand and I was surprised to see that it didn't feel heavy, this is just the first impression of it. I think I should be able to manage its weight without any problem. I will update here once I look through them

Sanjay

Congrats again Sanjay...looking forward to your comments and experiences with the EL 10x50 SV's! :t:

Ted

 

[Vespobuteo]

I got my 10*50 SV just one hour ago. I didn't have real chance to look through them as it is already 10 pm and absolutely dark here. I did feel them in my hand and I was surprised to see that it didn't feel heavy, this is just the first impression of it. I think I should be able to manage its weight without any problem. I will update here once I look through them

Sanjay

marvelous bins, the view is worth the weight in gold,
looking forward to you impressions,
:t:

 

[Theo98]

Well, I caved, succombed to the peer pressure, folded up like a lawn chair (hanging my head in shame)..........I ordered a pair today myself.

JG,

I'm sure you'll also enjoy the 10x50 SV's over the 10x42 SV's. :king:

While traveling Tuesday, got to again spend a few hours glassing at a BPS in Florida. I'm still preferring the SLC's 10x42 over the 10x42 HT's, 8x32 SV, 8.5x42 SV and even the 10x42 SV's. That is till I brought the 10x50 SV's into view. WOW, confirms selling my SLC's for that brighter, more immersive "you've arrived" DOF\FOV sight picture, just Amazing! :t:

Ted

 

[jgraider]

That's saying something Theo....those SLC's are very, very nice.

 

[SuperDuty]

So the 10X50 is that far superior to the 10X42, that's amazing. On a clear day, white objects through my 10X42 are so bright they are almost uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I could stand much more. Do you loose any contrast with the extra transmission ?

JG,

I'm sure you'll also enjoy the 10x50 SV's over the 10x42 SV's. :king:

While traveling Tuesday, got to again spend a few hours glassing at a BPS in Florida. I'm still preferring the SLC's 10x42 over the 10x42 HT's, 8x32 SV, 8.5x42 SV and even the 10x42 SV's. That is till I brought the 10x50 SV's into view. WOW, confirms selling my SLC's for that brighter, more immersive "you've arrived" DOF\FOV sight picture, just Amazing! :t:

Ted

 

[Jonno52]

Sanjay

Good to know you've taken the plunge: I trust you won't be disappointed.

I think you may be a bit of a perfectionist (I certainly am). Back in the 1980s I used to obsess about bins being absolutely perfect, over-clean them, and worry if any dust had got in. Those worries went away when I bought Habichts in 1990. But I've just done the business with shining a torch into my new EL SVs (10x42). Sure enough, a tiny speck of dust is present on the inside of one of the objectives. The point is that it will make absolutely no difference to the image, and because of the o-rings and nitrogen atmosphere, no further dust can get in.

After paying a lot of money for a top quality optical instrument, some people may expect absolute perfection. This isn't achievable. You'll always find a bit of chromatic aberration if you look hard for it on strongly backlit subjects, for example - as I understand it, that's the laws of optics. The point is that with these bins it's minimal.

I clean bins only when necessary. A photographic blower and lens brush will remove any gritty bits, then you can breathe lightly on the lens to form a layer of condensation (as advised by Swarovski) and use a microfibre cloth to remove any smears etc.

Incidentally, microfibre cloths seem to remain usable indefinitely. The one that came with the Habichts (now passed on to a relative) is fine after 25 years use.

Most of this is obvious enough, and possibly you're not as fussy as I used to be, of course! Anyway, enjoy the bins.

 

[Steve C]

So the 10X50 is that far superior to the 10X42, that's amazing. On a clear day, white objects through my 10X42 are so bright they are almost uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I could stand much more. Do you loose any contrast with the extra transmission ?

I think it is always a pretty good idea to take "WOW this Swarovski is sure better than the rest of them" comments with a large grain of salt. There are certainly differences between models, but I'd never use the WOW adjective. I'm never surprised at how different eyes will react to different binoculars, but WOW at the differences between the Swarovski models is not a term I'd use.

I would not say there is any loss in contrast, more like a gain in color rendition. I suppose the difference is somewhat akin to the 50 having a bigger battery than the 42, the extra oomph can be very effective. I would also say that I don't define my 50 as anywhere near too bright on a bright day.

I have a 10x50 SV and went there from a 10x42 SV. The difference between the two for me is after the sun goes down and if you spend a lot of time pushing distance limits of 10x. I think the extra detail people see with 10x is really better expressed at the 50 mm objective and 5 mm exit pupil. After long periods of time on a tripod, the 10x50 seems to me to show a lot less eye strain. The view seems somehow easier, but you really have to have them side by side before that detail shows up. Yes there is a subtle degree of the view is better than the 10x42, but not WOW. Kind of hard to define or put your finger on the difference of the 50 SV vs the 42. Side by side you can see how it affects you and whether or not it is worth it to you.

If it isn't broken don't fix it.

 

[Theo98]

Yes & YES!

That's saying something Theo....those SLC's are very, very nice.

So the 10X50 is that far superior to the 10X42, that's amazing. On a clear day, white objects through my 10X42 are so bright they are almost uncomfortable. I'm not sure if I could stand much more. Do you loose any contrast with the extra transmission ?

For me, I've felt the newest version of the SLC 10x42 (58310's) are the Best roof prism binos I've ever looked through. My direct comparison\usage experiences included other top optics, from the HT's to the Ultavid HD+ to the EL SV line up. Got the SLC's and thought I was set for glassing bino heaven, till I read about the 10x50's here on BF.

Finally, found some in stock for glassing at the local Cabelas...the rest is history! They are equal to the SLC's in contrast. Surprisingly, resolution and sharpness in the 10x50's are a clear step up, yielding clues that re-define detailed nuances and colors. Initially, I though views were somewhat washed out, but soon discovered in bright daylight and in the subtle edges of darkness, the 50mm objectives captured clarity, color and resolution details that the SLC's just simply hid. Their DOF from 50 meter focus out are so expansive and sharp all the way to the edges, and from foreground to background, they present a 3-D image that literally transforms me Into the View. I easily forget I'm looking through man made glass! For me, as soon as I bring the oculars to my eyes, their full FOV and DOF Instantly and Easily pops into view, Every time...that's when I usually verbalize the "WOW" word!

The SLC's (mine and all other 4 I've used in comparison evaluations) are Excellent Optics, the Best as far as I'm concerned in non field flattening designs. Are the EL 10x50's far superior to the 10x42's...No. But for me, they step up the glassing game Enough to have made the extra investment for a life time!

Ted

 

[Theo98]

I think it is always a pretty good idea to take "WOW this Swarovski is sure better than the rest of them" comments with a large grain of salt.

Good advice, Steve!

For Me it is a WOW.|8.| For you, they are Better.|=)| For others, they may suc..! :eek!:

Side by side you can see how it affects you and whether or not it is worth it to you.

As always, Your mileage Will vary. Whenever possible, Try before Buy!

 

[Vespobuteo]

I have a 10x50 SV and went there from a 10x42 SV. The difference between the two for me is after the sun goes down and if you spend a lot of time pushing distance limits of 10x. I think the extra detail people see with 10x is really better expressed at the 50 mm objective and 5 mm exit pupil. After long periods of time on a tripod, the 10x50 seems to me to show a lot less eye strain. The view seems somehow easier, but you really have to have them side by side before that detail shows up. Yes there is a subtle degree of the view is better than the 10x42, but not WOW. Kind of hard to define or put your finger on the difference of the 50 SV vs the 42. Side by side you can see how it affects you and whether or not it is worth it to you.

If it isn't broken don't fix it.

excellent summary,
viewing comfort, long distance and low light,
and a 10x56 will be even better,

 

[Rolstone]

I have been following this thread since near to the start. Does it represent a sea change of opinion with more people moving to the 10X50? Well, actually, probably not.

As I write, with 255 replies and 11,557 views, only 35 people have participated in this thread. Of these, 9 have purchased an EL 10X50, 11 have written with enthusiasm but not purchased a pair, 7 have written negatively (usually because they prefer 8X or do not like the weight), 7 have written neutrally or about language, harness or other subjects that are not strictly relevant to the thread and one has purchased but sent the EL 10X50 back.

I am still certain that I have purchased the best pair of binos FOR MY PURPOSES but this is an utterly personal decision made on the basis of what my eyes and brain combined tell me. There is no doubt that the EL10X50 gives me a clearer and brighter picture at ANY time of the day. Yes, it is exceptional at dusk and dawn and, only last night, I went out to a local reserve with 2 guides and 16 visitors (including me) and I was the first to see a kingfisher in the fading light, which many struggled to see at all, and one of the last to see a flying barn owl. But it is not just in fading (or improving) light that they are better. If I look at birds on the wing or in good light on water, their colours are much clearer as is the texture of their feathers compared with, say, a 10X42 pair.

However I totally accept that, for many people, an 8X bino, which limits the impact of shaky hands and has a wider FOV and is much lighter, is the way to go. And not just the 8X format, some will prefer the lightness of a 10X42 or, indeed, any other format.

I guess that all that I am saying is that it is horses for courses. Everyone has their own views and that is one of the joys of this forum. We, the EL 10X50 brigade, will remain a minority. In the longer term it will be interesting to see if there is any significant move towards the 10X50 format.

Rolstone

 

[Uhu74]

I have been following this thread since near to the start. Does it represent a sea change of opinion with more people moving to the 10X50? Well, actually, probably not.

As I write, with 255 replies and 11,557 views, only 35 people have participated in this thread. Of these, 9 have actually purchased EL 10X50, 11 have written with enthusiasm but not purchased a pair, 7 have written negatively (usually because they prefer 8X or do not like the weight), 7 have written neutrally or about language, harness or other subjects that are not strictly relevant to the thread and one has purchased but sent the EL 10X50 back.

I am still certain that I have purchased the best pair of binos FOR MY PURPOSES but this is an utterly personal decision made, I suppose, on the basis of what my eyes and brain combined tell me. There is no doubt that the EL10X50 gives me a clearer and brighter picture at ANY time of the day. Yes, it is exceptional at dusk and dawn and only last night I went out to a local reserve with 2 guides and 16 visitors (including me) and I was the first to see a kingfisher in the fading light, which many struggled to see at all, and one of the last to see a flying barn owl.

However I totally accept that, for many people, an 8X bino, which limits the impact of shaky hands and has a wider FOV and is much lighter, is the way to go.

I guess that all that I am saying is that it is horses for courses. Everyone has their own views and that is one of the joys of this forum. We, the EL 10X50 brigade, will remain a minority. In the longer term it will be interesting to see if there is any significant move to the 10X50 format.

Rolstone

Great summary RS, I agree that it might not be "the one" for everyone, but it sure is a very, very good binocular.
Wow, 9 people actually bought one, that's pretty impressive. I didn't expect this thread would grow so big:t:
One thing is for sure, if I could only keep one, it would be the SV50B

 

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excellent summary,
viewing comfort, long distance and low light,
and a 10x56 will be even better,

Who makes a good 10x56 with a decent FOV?

 

[HighNorth]

Got the SLC's and thought I was set for glassing bino heaven, till I read about the 10x50's here on BF.

I guess reading stuff here on BF has drained many wallets over the years!

HN