New bin, EL10x50SV (1 Viewer)

[Theo98]

The FOV in the 50 seems much wider than it probably actually is, but it really is noticeably larger, almost giving you the feeling you're in the scene, not just looking at it (I know, that sounds dumb). I can't really tell any difference in sharpness, colors, contrast, resolving power, etc, as both are spectacularly sharp. It is noticeably brighter too, as you would expect.

JG,

As an experienced and very satisfied owner of the excellent 10x42 SVs, your direct comparative observations with the 10x50 SVs are intriguing. I had a 10 minute conversation with a SONA tech yesterday. He confirmed that all of their EL series (8x to 12x) have the same treatment coatings, but the 50mm brings in more light (as has been stated in BF many times, Aperture Rules). He said the additional brightness may have a perceived effect on colors, but their brilliance and fidelity are all still the same.

In direct comparisons, I also observe a considerably wider FOV that does not equate with their 3m difference in the spec ratings. I feel the 10x50's perceived wider FOV combined with their deep "In Focus" DOF is what pulls you into the scene, as if you were there! That is what I call the WOW (Wondrous Optical Wizardry) effect. :eek!: This enhanced visual field is what the SONA tech called, "the best Swaro in their line up"!:t:

Ted

 

[Sanjay Naithani]

JG,

As an experienced and very satisfied owner of the excellent 10x42 SVs, your direct comparative observations with the 10x50 SVs are intriguing. I had a 10 minute conversation with a SONA tech yesterday. He confirmed that all of their EL series (8x to 12x) have the same treatment coatings, but the 50mm brings in more light (as has been stated in BF many times, Aperture Rules). He said the additional brightness may have a perceived effect on colors, but their brilliance and fidelity are all still the same.

In direct comparisons, I also observe a considerably wider FOV that does not equate with their 3m difference in the spec ratings. I feel the 10x50's perceived wider FOV combined with their deep "In Focus" DOF is what pulls you into the scene, as if you were there! That is what I call the WOW (Wondrous Optical Wizardry) effect. :eek!: This enhanced visual field is what the SONA tech called, "the best Swaro in their line up"!:t:

Ted

Does it mean that the charachter of image through 8.5 & 10 would be same because of the same exit pupil. Also 10*42 and 12*50 would display same image. The only thing would be different magnification.

Sanjay

 

[Theo98]

Today I tried 10*50 and I must say that I liked the depth of the view in it. Much was in focus from near to far and it was impressive. My mind still tell me 12*50 was less in whiteness , more saturated colors and looked more crisp. However this all could be because of that day! Sanjay

During the day when I looked down from building it gives me different level of clarity vs when I look straight through my binocular. I am not sure if stray light plays role when looking straight vs looking down. View looking down is crystal clear vs when you look straight and little far. There seems to be some haze which makes it less crispy.Sanjay

I would make honest confession that I could find 10*50 reflecting almost similar image (may be marginally less) as it was 12*50. I have noted that when you are looking down (it was 2nd floor in this case) and not too far ( say up till 200 meters), image looks much more crisp, clear and colors pop up. Reason I noticed is reduction of whiteness when viewing down. I have noticed that even when you look straight at up till 200 meters away, impression of the image becomes less rich and crisp due to some whiteness (I guess brightness) in the image. Sanjay

Yes, you are absolutely correct. I have no issues in keeping SV 50 with me and I know I will be happy with it. Sanjay Naithani

Sanjay,

Several members have stated, including me, preference for the Overall EL 10x50 SV image presentation over the 8.5x42, 10x42 and the 12x50. The answers you seek are all above (in your own words) and found in much more detail throughout this topic's 400 post, but more specifically pages 14 to 17! As many of us at BF know (some with brief moments of direct comparisons, like me...others, long term ownership and experience direct comparisons), you can easily catch and become consumed by PA (Paralysis by Analysis). If opportunities are not presently available, in the future they may and then you can see with your own eyes the answers to your questions of frustration. Personally, I believe you have in your hands one of the best roof prism binoculars made today...ENJOY My Friend! :t:

Ted

 

[Maljunulo]

I can't help but agree with Ted, here.

You don't seem to be getting any joy whatsoever, out of your binoculars, just continuing obsessing over a purchasing decision which you have already made.

Give it a rest, and come back and tell us what you have been observing with your new, top notch, binoculars.

 

[perterra]

Words of wisdom.

 

[SuperDuty]

I was fortunate today to have the super congenial Swaro rep at the grand opening of the Noblesville In. Cabelas alternately hand the 10X42 and 10X50 SV to me as many times as suited me. The conditions were near perfect with bright sunshine and low humidity. Rather than blather on, I will say that I agree wholeheartedly with the positive things that have been said about the EL10X50SV.

 

[Pileatus]

I was fortunate today to have the super congenial Swaro rep at the grand opening of the Noblesville In. Cabelas alternately hand the 10X42 and 10X50 SV to me as many times as suited me. The conditions were near perfect with bright sunshine and low humidity. Rather than blather on, I will say that I agree wholeheartedly with the positive things that have been said about the EL10X50SV.

Comments like yours, based on personal experience, are the heart and soul of BF optics. :t:

 

[jgraider]

Comments like yours, based on personal experience, are the heart and soul of BF optics. :t:

I'm glad you got a chance to see them side by side for yourself SDuty.

I also agree on the personal experience posts. Had it not been for you guys here, I would have totally missed the attributes of this 10x50SV.

 

[SuperDuty]

:t:

Comments like yours, based on personal experience, are the heart and soul of BF optics. :t:

 

[SuperDuty]

Damn, now an owner of two SVs:eek!:, I should have my ass kicked.:-O These 10X50 threads should be banned. 3

I'm glad you got a chance to see them side by side for yourself SDuty.

I also agree on the personal experience posts. Had it not been for you guys here, I would have totally missed the attributes of this 10x50SV.

What exactly are you seeing that is better than your 10X42 ? I may be in danger of having to order a pair of the damn things myself. :C 3

 

[Kammerdiner]

Yeah, I wish you clowns would stop posting about how much you like the 10x50 SV.

Signed,
Mark's wallet

 

[Theo98]

Damn, now an owner of two SVs:eek!:, I should have my ass kicked.:-O These 10X50 threads should be banned. 3

My condolences, Robert. Now, go out and get a good harness so that it won't keep kicking your ass! 8-P 3 :king:

Congrats and ENJOY! :t:

Ted

 

[jgraider]

Damn, now an owner of two SVs:eek!:, I should have my ass kicked.:-O These 10X50 threads should be banned. 3

Same thing happened to me SD.......bunch of enablers around here. Badass glass though, huh?

 

[Jaymie Arnold]

I was able to try out the SV 10 x 50 briefly and from what little time I spent with it I definitely concur with what's being said about its exemplary attributes. Amazing optics and ergonomics! As a big fan of binoculars with ~ 5 mm exit pupils I've been looking into getting a 10 x 50 to compliment my 8 x 42. It seems to me from what I've read the SV is the cream of the crop with not much competition, but was just curious if anyone had done some comparisons with potential challengers. I have never tried out the Leica Ultravid 10 x 50 (- or + versions), but based on specifications it looks somewhat similar to the SV in FOV, weight, close focus, etc. I'm guessing it's not as comfortable to hold for longer periods since it's not an open bridge design but since I've never tried it I don't really know. I was also curious what any of you thought about the Vortex Razor HD 10 x 50. I'm sure in comparison to the SV optically it's not quite as good and the FOV is significantly smaller than both the SV and Ultravid. Spec wise the one advantage it does seem to have however is weight (about 7 oz lighter than the SV and Ultravid). I've noticed some people have said that additional weight is actually a positive rather than a negative attribute with higher magnification binos since it can aid in keeping the binocular more steady. Perhaps the Razor is also harder to keep steady since it's lighter and/or doesn't have the open bridge design? Price wise you can basically buy 2 Razor's for the price of 1 SV or Ultravid, so was also curious if the doubling in price is well justified (warranties for Swarovski and Vortex both seem decent, Leica supposedly getting better but not great). Thanks!

 

[SuperDuty]

I appreciate the advice from everyone about the 10X50SV, I feel that I now have a binocular that will provide a lifetime, what's left of it anyway :gn:3, of fabulous viewing. Not that the 10X42 wouldn't have also.

My condolences, Robert. Now, go out and get a good harness so that it won't keep kicking your ass! 8-P 3 :king:

Congrats and ENJOY! :t:

Ted

 

[Sanjay Naithani]

I appreciate the advice from everyone about the 10X50SV, I feel that I now have a binocular that will provide a lifetime, what's left of it anyway :gn:3, of fabulous viewing. Not that the 10X42 wouldn't have also.

So you are going to keep this 50mm. Enjoy the view.

Sanjay

 

[SuperDuty]

I just got them today, now I need to sell the 10X42SVs. They are an absolutely factory perfect 2014 unit bought from a genuine authorized dealer last year and registered with Swarovski if anyone is interested. I don't need $4000+ worth of new SVs sitting around, maybe Gates or Buffett, but not me.:-O

So you are going to keep this 50mm. Enjoy the view.

Sanjay

 

[Maljunulo]

Every time the voices in my head start up again, I tell them to go pound sand.

 

[SuperDuty]

So you also hear them.|:||3

Every time the voices in my head start up again, I tell them to go pound sand.

 

[Maljunulo]

So you also hear them.|:||3

Yeah, but you listened. |;|