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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Valéry Schollaert" data-source="post: 2194138" data-attributes="member: 75148">Andy,One of the problem if this kind of subject is usually one is replying to half the other one purpose.I never said I don't like to discover new bird. I say we can do it  without killing. It is the main point since the start, since my first comment I mean.Especially for a species like the gorgeous Scarlet-banded Barbet, we definitely don't need a specimen to admit there is a new species. It is not a coleoptera that need to be analysed with a microscope to see the differences with other ones. If most scientists decide today that photo and genetic evidences (taken from a feather) are enough to proove a new species, it will be like this, and the same national park would have been created from those evidences...Collecting will disappear, there is no doubt about it. It is less and less accepted by "average people". Good news indeed: when I launched a debate on the subjet on African Birding about 10 years ago, I was virtually alone against it. Now we are closer than 50-50. Fortunately, human evolves in a good way!I just do my best to speed up the process. If, in my life, I would be responsible, let's say, for stopping this old-fashioned behaviour in collecting, of one year earlier, I will be very proud to have saved undreds of rare (individual) birds.Good night (well, here in Tanzania it is late evenin <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />)</blockquote>

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