Am I alone or slowly cracking up? I keep receiving emails saying I have received a reply posting but when I click on the link - the posting isn't there?
dogfish said:Blimey, are you Scampo in disguise? o That's supposed to be a smiley face by the way
Glad I'm not alone - but you are surely right, Tim. The problem is that they are now only available with 40x and 50x lenses so by the time you've bought say, the MCII zoom, or a 20 / 30 wide, the price soon climbs nearer to the ED82. - which is also completely watertight (not that I've ever once had a scope mist up in many years and with some pretty cheap scopes in my time).Tim Allwood said:to my eyes I can't see a difference between the ED78 (available for £450 from Warehouse Express) and the new 82 Nikon or Swarovski - both considerably more exensive. The ED78 takes the new MC eyepieces, is compact and must be the optical steal of the year.
Hardly, though I suspect that was said tongue in cheek! I think everyone should take reviews with a pinch of salt, and check products themselves.scampo said:Ah well... all it takes is a fair and objective trial: and I think we would all agree that Leif is a very objective-minded individual indeed.
Nope - I was being very straightforward, guv. I was interested in your comments on Leica and Zeiss.Leif said:Hardly, though I suspect that was said tongue in cheek! I think everyone should take reviews with a pinch of salt, and check products themselves.
That said, I am looking for a posh scope, and the reviews and comments of the Nikon 82 and other scopes on this site have been very helpful. I have to profess a lot of ignorance when it comes to scopes.
I don't think your liking for Nikon is mis-placed. They seem to be making a concerted and successful effort to break into the territory previously dominated by the big German/Austrian names. I suspect that the market for birding optics is a growing one, though I know that Leica have been having financial problems, and Zeiss announced big profits!
I think those weights are for the body, I believe. With lens and case, I sem to remember the Nikon is in very much the same region as Zeiss and lighter than Leicadogfish said:No, Nikon is heavier than the Zeiss (Leica wasn't in my test). The Nikon 82 is variously cited as either 1610g or 1670g. The Swav is 1350g and the Zeiss 1450g.
I own a Nikon MC1 zoom (for my ED111) and have used it for some time. The MC11 strikes me as basically the same but without the annoying halo effect. A very good eyepiece, but just not quite in the same class as Swav or Zeiss. Very good at lower mags but just doesn't look as bright and sharp at 60x and up.
The size of the zoom doesn't worry me if the overall package is light. My shoulder can't see how big the zoom is.....