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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Robin Edwards" data-source="post: 3387455" data-attributes="member: 17885">Is there a parallel business that causes so much adverse impact to our upland biodiversity where a line of defense is the amount of livelihoods benefiting/impacted if things need to change? Maybe we should not address drug trafficking using similar arguments?<a href="http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/ibi.12356" target="_blank">http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/enhanced/doi/10.1111/ibi.12356</a>Lets agree, game-keeping to protect commercial grouse moors is about complete removal of any species, protected or otherwise that might interfere with this objective to optimise income.  This includes mountain hare, scottish wildcat, short-eared owl, merlin, peregrine - in fact any BoP and more.  Did I miss Hen Harrier and do we consider these species to be collateral damage just because a small percentage of revenue that grouse shooting brings in, filters down to the local upland economies?I can recommend reading Inglorious for anyone still unclear of what goes on - pages 70-73 would act as a good point of reference.</blockquote>