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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 1243808" data-attributes="member: 665">Capn' Vallo,Aye! Aye! Sir, I agree with your statement above, and recently wrote something very similar on Cloudy Days binoculars forum on a thread asking for recommendations on the best 8x mid-priced roof from a user's short list. I didn't like any of the binoculars on his list (all had relatively narrowish fields of view and mediocre edge performance). However, the mid-priced roof line up keeps improving, as the Chinese learn the optics game, so I recommended he either buy a more expensive Japanese roof or a lower priced but optically better porro or wait it out until something better comes along in his price range. Already, Pentax and Vortex are offering mid-priced roofs with a wider FOV (and the Pentax HRc offers silver coated prisms for $20 more than the HRII). I think there's hope for mid-priced roofs. However, with a price tag of 3K+ USD expected on the new Swaros, I think you'd better add a few more zeros before the decimal point in terms of its advantage, because I doubt if will be 3X better than the $1,000+ top of the line roofs already offered by Swaro and other manufacturers. The price of the new Swaros in the US may actually be lower (but still ridiculous if what that reviewer said is true), because prices for binoculars overall seem to be lower in the US than Europe even for bins made in Europe! This might be due to the greater number of sales in the US?I'm probably way out of synch with BF members who might be salivating for the "latest and greatest" Swaro roof yet, because I would prefer to see Swaro update its Habicht porro line. The design and coatings are outdated, and the Plossl EPs give too narrow a FOV. I'd like to see new porros with better ergonomics and optics that will give the Nikon SE line some competition (w/out the dreaded blackouts please!). But I'm not holding my breath. Brock</blockquote>

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