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Message: <blockquote data-quote="griffin" data-source="post: 1332697" data-attributes="member: 34828">I don't know why you are puzzled - I am looking for a sharp lens and the best pictures I have seen with those lenses shows the potential to take great pictures ! It was a compliment to that particular photographers skill hence "if I could get results like that...". I am trying to gauge the satisfaction of users with these lenses based on their results and particular experiences. On average, they all seem useful lenses in the right hands. As someone who has had photographs published in books (and more pending) I think I can take a decent picture......sometimes. I am looking to get a bit more quality, that is all.FTR I have seen pictures with the Nikon 300, Canon 100-400 and the 400 that people have posted that they clearly consider to be very impressive that I consider to be mediocre so I do know what you are saying.I also get pissed off with all this "good copy/lemon/peach" nonsense - there may be a titchy bit of truth in it with the odd Canon or Nikon lens, and more so with some third party lenses, but IMO it is generally an excuse for bad technique.</blockquote>