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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pileatus" data-source="post: 238487" data-attributes="member: 9609">A few notes on the SE 8X32 and E2 8X30.The SE has 17.4 mm ER; the E2 has 13.8 mm ER.IMO, the difference in eye relief will definitely affect eyeglass wearers.The SE is built as well as a porro can be short of being totally waterproof. It's construction quality is vastly superior to the majority of porros you'll pick up in stores.SE "blackouts" can be easily eliminated by backing off the eyepiece...I've verified this with several SE owners. Initially, I rejected the SE due to "blackouts", but later learned to eliminate them with my wife's SE. Shortly thereafter I bought one for myself and have been thankful ever since. The SE is a masterpiece and if Nikon would only package the SE optics in a waterproof housing they'd own a huge share of the birding market, IMHO, of course.  John</blockquote>