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<blockquote data-quote="4John" data-source="post: 1327441" data-attributes="member: 46277"><p>Alexis</p><p></p><p>I agree there's not a lot of difference in the published FOVs. The FOV for the zoom at x13 is 52m, whereas the FOV for the X27 is 47m. That's only 5m at 1000km. However, I was surprised to see a noticeable difference in the FOV when I compared what I could see of the back of car (!) at a distance of about 70ft at x13 with the zoom and x27 with the fixed lens - enough for me to prefer the zoom. I certainly didn't find it to all intents and purposes identical. However, as with all these things YMMV. FOV for scanning or lining up on a bird is more important to me in practice than magnfication. I prefer a zoom because whilst I don't often use the extra magnification, when I do need it I prefer it to fiddling about changing lenses.</p><p></p><p>Sorry if I have caused confusion with the eye relief thing. What I meant to say was that I personally found it difficult to see the complete picture edge-to-edge with the X27 - I needed another half a turn out of the eye-cup that wasn't there (I agree it's not really a cup !). However, I hope I made it clear that was my problem, and not enough to write off an eyepiece ! It was merely something Greg might like to check. I know many people on this forum prefer the x27 to the zoom. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Halftwo</p><p></p><p>I personally agree with you - I have a straight scope for the reasons you've given. However, it is a fact that in my experience most birders in the UK seem to prefer an angled scope. When trying out scopes I often find there is only an angled version in stock ('cos most people buy an angled scope.....). Whilst I still find it awkward to use an angled scope, even after 15 to 30 minutes, it does get easier, and I know if I was forced to use an angled scope I'd eventually get used to it.</p><p></p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4John, post: 1327441, member: 46277"] Alexis I agree there's not a lot of difference in the published FOVs. The FOV for the zoom at x13 is 52m, whereas the FOV for the X27 is 47m. That's only 5m at 1000km. However, I was surprised to see a noticeable difference in the FOV when I compared what I could see of the back of car (!) at a distance of about 70ft at x13 with the zoom and x27 with the fixed lens - enough for me to prefer the zoom. I certainly didn't find it to all intents and purposes identical. However, as with all these things YMMV. FOV for scanning or lining up on a bird is more important to me in practice than magnfication. I prefer a zoom because whilst I don't often use the extra magnification, when I do need it I prefer it to fiddling about changing lenses. Sorry if I have caused confusion with the eye relief thing. What I meant to say was that I personally found it difficult to see the complete picture edge-to-edge with the X27 - I needed another half a turn out of the eye-cup that wasn't there (I agree it's not really a cup !). However, I hope I made it clear that was my problem, and not enough to write off an eyepiece ! It was merely something Greg might like to check. I know many people on this forum prefer the x27 to the zoom. Halftwo I personally agree with you - I have a straight scope for the reasons you've given. However, it is a fact that in my experience most birders in the UK seem to prefer an angled scope. When trying out scopes I often find there is only an angled version in stock ('cos most people buy an angled scope.....). Whilst I still find it awkward to use an angled scope, even after 15 to 30 minutes, it does get easier, and I know if I was forced to use an angled scope I'd eventually get used to it. Mark [/QUOTE]
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