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<blockquote data-quote="brocknroller" data-source="post: 1762305" data-attributes="member: 665"><p>FF,</p><p></p><p>Wow! An additional line? You had the bins mounted, correct? The shakes alone from a 10x bin could cause you to see less detail vs. 8.5x. </p><p></p><p>I noticed this when I compared the 804 FMC 8.5x44 Audubon to the 10x42 EDG while standing. Looking at print on the telephone transformer, I could read smaller lines with the Audubon. </p><p></p><p>However, when I sat down and braced myself well in an arm chair, or when I mounted the bins on a tripod, the detail was the same through both bins, with the better edges on the Nikon allowing me to read an entire line of print w/out moving the bins. </p><p></p><p>The 804 FMC Audubon had the highest resolution I've seen in 8ish power bin. Ultra fine bird feather detail was visible (cross hatching looked like it was under a microscope at fairly close range). Unfortunately, the bin had too much pincushion for my taste, but the centerfield was amazingly sharp. </p><p></p><p>The other factor you might have experienced, being that you live in Sunny Miami, is the loss of detail due to the EDG coatings bias, which has a tendency for brightness to overwhelm the contrast on brightly lit objects, thus reducing detail. </p><p></p><p>The Premier LX L shows this tendency to the more extreme degree. Comparing the older 8x32 LX with the 10x42 LX L, on a brightly lit leaf, I could see more "vein" detail with the 8x32, because the leaf looked so bright. When light levels dropped, the 10x42 LX L showed more detail. </p><p></p><p>Of course, there's also sample variation to consider. A good sample SV EL matched against a sub par sample 10x EDG will win out. Or perhaps Swaro added some extra "oomf" to the resolution on the new SV EL. </p><p></p><p>The 10x EDG and the 8.5x Swaro should match very closely in resolution since the Swaro and the Audubon match in resolution (see Steve Ingraham's BVD article "Poor Man's EL?" unless you think he's a "chucklehead" <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. From my measurement (mounted), the Audubon and 10x EDG match. Ipso facto, the Swaro and 10x EDG should match. </p><p></p><p>Either the EDG is sub par or the SV EL is über par vs. the older version. </p><p></p><p>Need more data points. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brocknroller, post: 1762305, member: 665"] FF, Wow! An additional line? You had the bins mounted, correct? The shakes alone from a 10x bin could cause you to see less detail vs. 8.5x. I noticed this when I compared the 804 FMC 8.5x44 Audubon to the 10x42 EDG while standing. Looking at print on the telephone transformer, I could read smaller lines with the Audubon. However, when I sat down and braced myself well in an arm chair, or when I mounted the bins on a tripod, the detail was the same through both bins, with the better edges on the Nikon allowing me to read an entire line of print w/out moving the bins. The 804 FMC Audubon had the highest resolution I've seen in 8ish power bin. Ultra fine bird feather detail was visible (cross hatching looked like it was under a microscope at fairly close range). Unfortunately, the bin had too much pincushion for my taste, but the centerfield was amazingly sharp. The other factor you might have experienced, being that you live in Sunny Miami, is the loss of detail due to the EDG coatings bias, which has a tendency for brightness to overwhelm the contrast on brightly lit objects, thus reducing detail. The Premier LX L shows this tendency to the more extreme degree. Comparing the older 8x32 LX with the 10x42 LX L, on a brightly lit leaf, I could see more "vein" detail with the 8x32, because the leaf looked so bright. When light levels dropped, the 10x42 LX L showed more detail. Of course, there's also sample variation to consider. A good sample SV EL matched against a sub par sample 10x EDG will win out. Or perhaps Swaro added some extra "oomf" to the resolution on the new SV EL. The 10x EDG and the 8.5x Swaro should match very closely in resolution since the Swaro and the Audubon match in resolution (see Steve Ingraham's BVD article "Poor Man's EL?" unless you think he's a "chucklehead" :-). From my measurement (mounted), the Audubon and 10x EDG match. Ipso facto, the Swaro and 10x EDG should match. Either the EDG is sub par or the SV EL is über par vs. the older version. Need more data points. :-) [/QUOTE]
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