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Message: <blockquote data-quote="temmie" data-source="post: 1557534" data-attributes="member: 58016">yes, on the FL's. You won't find a bigger supporter of Zeiss binoculars, but the rubber is really bad. I like the grippy, soft feel, and even though I have been warned by this forum that build quality is so-so, I bought them last year in september. They are only used in weekends and when travelling, have never seen the rain or water or too much sun (the rubber coming loose is on the side turned towards the chest), and are always transported in the pouch. I did not even notice the rubber came loose, but a friend of me (also a Zeiss die-hard) was talking to me and said he had the problem of air between the rubber and the binocular, location is where you would put your thumbs when holding them. I was surprised when he asked to show him mine, and I had exactly the same problem. It is a matter of time before the area where the rubber came loose will become bigger and bigger, untill the rubber is flapping in the wind. When I just bought them and put the objective protection covers on, and wanted to take those covers off again, I also was taking with the rubber around the objectives. I adjusted the rubber back in place, and the glue felt like soft, not very viscous and not hardened yet.they really have to do something about the rubber.</blockquote>