Gijs van Ginkel
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Andreas, post 155,
I am touched.
Gijs van Ginkel
I am touched.
Gijs van Ginkel
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NL Pure 8x32 and NL Pure 10x32! (1 Viewer)
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jan van daalen
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Sigh, is this Rub it in or Robben in.....?
jan van daalen
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Well, if the info is correct and Swarovski launched the NL (NetherLands) in the color orange as a homage etc etc....... I think we are OK
ticl2184
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As sure as the Sun rises I'm sure you'll be able to get the 42 NL in Orange and maybe other colours...
Cheers
Tim
SeldomPerched
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I don't personally like the orange NL that much, but I don't see anything shallow in liking the look of something.
That isn't quite what I said.
SeldomPerched
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I do see what you mean now you mention it. An area for different views no doubt!
pbjosh
missing the neotropics
Off topic but I think he's sort of un-retired and playing for his first club, at least part time, or some such... not sure if I have it 100% correct. I'm sure there are those more up to speed who can chime in.
pbjosh
missing the neotropics
And I personally like the orange a lot! I don't think I'd commit that money to an alpha bin that I'm going to use primarily for birding. But on the flip side, if the MHG or CL were available in orange or yellow I would likely have chosen that color. Camo and drab coloring have their place but so do joyful days in sandals and a bright yellow t-shirt birding in places where a pair of orange bins won't make any difference at all in what you see. I've seen a LOT of great birds dressed in loud colors.
jan van daalen
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He played several minutes in the last 2 years for FC Groningen, even twenty minutes today (and lost in the Derby of the North from Heerenveen).
dwever
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So now certain bins are an optical Rolex? Please.
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Gijs van Ginkel
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If you like a variety of binocular colors: look at the Meopta product site.
Gijs van Ginkel
Gijs van Ginkel
I think pricing is getting out of hand here. I mean it would make more sense if there were an intent to make a boutique product eg. like those big Nikon bins etc, and destined to be used very carefully in controlled environments. But for something to be thrown in a backpack and taken to the beach, a boat, dropped into sand or on to rocks etc, well ...
This pricing issue seems particularly relevant in the case of a 32 which is sort of supposed to be the "cheap" binocular compared to the 42.
Some years ago, I spoke to the Canon pro camera rep, who told me that basically pro photographers were buying prosumer models because the pricing of the "pro" EOS bodies had got out of hand. I think we may see something like this happen here, a glass that needs to be thrown around, taken on a boating trip or to the beach, and can get lost or stolen needs to be ... reasonably replaceable.
I'm making no comment here on quality or "optical value" compared to the previous model.
To those who don't care about pricing,and for who the view through a glass is one of the big pleasures of life, I say "enjoy"!
Edmund
This pricing issue seems particularly relevant in the case of a 32 which is sort of supposed to be the "cheap" binocular compared to the 42.
Some years ago, I spoke to the Canon pro camera rep, who told me that basically pro photographers were buying prosumer models because the pricing of the "pro" EOS bodies had got out of hand. I think we may see something like this happen here, a glass that needs to be thrown around, taken on a boating trip or to the beach, and can get lost or stolen needs to be ... reasonably replaceable.
I'm making no comment here on quality or "optical value" compared to the previous model.
To those who don't care about pricing,and for who the view through a glass is one of the big pleasures of life, I say "enjoy"!
Edmund
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Add that to the NL sculpted tubes and it seems almost inevitable.
One of the realities all Product Managers come to eventually, is that the sales of that cool, "new and improved," thing you've been working on, sold to management as the antidote for a competitive offering, or new niche product, will not only just be new additive sales for your company. Rather there will also be cannibalization of similar, related products in your own line.
If we merge Seldom Perched's idea, the NL sculpted tubes, and the pricing described in #148, what do we think happens to NL842 sales volume with the 32 now coming?
John A Roberts
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The obvious problem in discussing the NL x32 is that it's not yet in general circulation, and won’t be until next month
The exceptions being:
• some dealers such as Jan having had a short hands-on session, see post #22, and
• a very few such as Diego Calderon getting what may be a pre series production unit for field testing, see post #56
I was interested in Jan’s observation that in comparing the x32 and the x42 NL:
'. . . The waist of the 32 is 2 mm smaller compared to the 42 and one can hardly feel a difference. The balance is right beneath the thumb,
in other words for me excellent . . . '
So playing around with the one comparative image that we have from Swarovski, I aligned the rear end of the two bodies (ignoring the eyecups)
As can be seen, the rear half of the two binoculars appears the be externally identical - from the rear of the body to the front of the bridge,
both in length and width - at least with a front-on view
This may give x42 users some idea of how the x32 is also likely to feel and handle
However, the common external dimensions shouldn’t be taken as meaning that internally the x32 and x42 NL are necessarily identical
A likely difference would be the eyepiece lenses, and it’s possible that the focuser mechanism has been modified
The 2 mm difference noted by Jan may either reflect only a modification to the external RA covering, or perhaps also modification
to the underlying metal body shell
John
p.s. as can be seen from a side-on image of the x32, the bridge protrudes significantly above the barrels, similar to that of the x42
The exceptions being:
• some dealers such as Jan having had a short hands-on session, see post #22, and
• a very few such as Diego Calderon getting what may be a pre series production unit for field testing, see post #56
I was interested in Jan’s observation that in comparing the x32 and the x42 NL:
'. . . The waist of the 32 is 2 mm smaller compared to the 42 and one can hardly feel a difference. The balance is right beneath the thumb,
in other words for me excellent . . . '
So playing around with the one comparative image that we have from Swarovski, I aligned the rear end of the two bodies (ignoring the eyecups)
As can be seen, the rear half of the two binoculars appears the be externally identical - from the rear of the body to the front of the bridge,
both in length and width - at least with a front-on view
This may give x42 users some idea of how the x32 is also likely to feel and handle
However, the common external dimensions shouldn’t be taken as meaning that internally the x32 and x42 NL are necessarily identical
A likely difference would be the eyepiece lenses, and it’s possible that the focuser mechanism has been modified
The 2 mm difference noted by Jan may either reflect only a modification to the external RA covering, or perhaps also modification
to the underlying metal body shell
John
p.s. as can be seen from a side-on image of the x32, the bridge protrudes significantly above the barrels, similar to that of the x42
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