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Gijs van Ginkel

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Pyrtle, post 139,
The Konica is a nice well-made binocular, but you have to look for it, since it is not easy to find. It is probably waterproof and certainly historic, since there are not so many Konica binoculars around here, but the search in itself is already fun.
Gijs van Ginkel
 
Hello, everyone on this long and fascinating thread! Steve Thompson here from the Isle of Wight, UK. I thought I would give some reflections on the issue of Nino quality as someone who has been actively birding for 48 years. In 1979 I bought my pair of Zeiss Dialyt 10x40s. They have been on every continent bar Antarctica and have been through every weather, including a week on Stewart Island and a week in Fjordland Nz . Never seen so much rain! In deserts and rain forest faultless performance with, most importantly, some excellent views of birds. I decided having borrowed some Zeiss Victory FLs and using Swarovski ELs to add Victory FL 10x42s to our optics. My wife and I use both since 2012. I decided on the Victory model as I simply felt most at ease with it, though I wouldn’t like to say which is sharper in the field compared to the Swarovski. The FL glass does make a difference compared to the Dialyt and more bright detail is visible in low light - watching Hen Harrier coming in to roost at sunset in winter everything is visible. The build quality is excellent and the most important point is that I never feel distracted from birdwatching worrying about the binos( though my wife now does want to upgrade the 41 year old Dialyt!) Binos are not jewellery in other words as some have commented already! I will upgrade the Dialyts with either Swarovski ELs or Victory HTs probably as the NL range is too expensive for me and the comments here do make me hesitate about buying new models. Incidentally, I still use my Optolyth TB80 scope,, bought in 1986, except in the rain when draw tubes are a liability, and might upgrade this so I can use a scope in all weathers. I would comment, however, that in hot weather looking at distant Ospreys the heat haze meant the Swarovski 95 gave no better an image at 40x magnification. It’s what real world use is about. I have enjoyed the comments and clearly very experienced views on this thread - remember as a number of you have said, it’s watching the birds that is the key, albeit with the best most reliable gear you are most comfortable with.
Steve
 
Hello, everyone on this long and fascinating thread! Steve Thompson here from the Isle of Wight, UK. I thought I would give some reflections on the issue of Nino quality as someone who has been actively birding for 48 years. In 1979 I bought my pair of Zeiss Dialyt 10x40s. They have been on every continent bar Antarctica and have been through every weather, including a week on Stewart Island and a week in Fjordland Nz . Never seen so much rain! In deserts and rain forest faultless performance with, most importantly, some excellent views of birds. I decided having borrowed some Zeiss Victory FLs and using Swarovski ELs to add Victory FL 10x42s to our optics. My wife and I use both since 2012. I decided on the Victory model as I simply felt most at ease with it, though I wouldn’t like to say which is sharper in the field compared to the Swarovski. The FL glass does make a difference compared to the Dialyt and more bright detail is visible in low light - watching Hen Harrier coming in to roost at sunset in winter everything is visible. The build quality is excellent and the most important point is that I never feel distracted from birdwatching worrying about the binos( though my wife now does want to upgrade the 41 year old Dialyt!) Binos are not jewellery in other words as some have commented already! I will upgrade the Dialyts with either Swarovski ELs or Victory HTs probably as the NL range is too expensive for me and the comments here do make me hesitate about buying new models. Incidentally, I still use my Optolyth TB80 scope,, bought in 1986, except in the rain when draw tubes are a liability, and might upgrade this so I can use a scope in all weathers. I would comment, however, that in hot weather looking at distant Ospreys the heat haze meant the Swarovski 95 gave no better an image at 40x magnification. It’s what real world use is about. I have enjoyed the comments and clearly very experienced views on this thread - remember as a number of you have said, it’s watching the birds that is the key, albeit with the best most reliable gear you are most comfortable with.
Steve
Meant to be bino quality - I hate spellcheck!
 

NDhunter

Experienced observer
United States
Steve:
Thanks for the well thought out and interesting post, it was educational and much appreciated.

Jerry
 

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Hello, everyone on this long and fascinating thread! Steve Thompson here from the Isle of Wight, UK. I thought I would give some reflections on the issue of Nino quality as someone who has been actively birding for 48 years. In 1979 I bought my pair of Zeiss Dialyt 10x40s. They have been on every continent bar Antarctica and have been through every weather, including a week on Stewart Island and a week in Fjordland Nz . Never seen so much rain! In deserts and rain forest faultless performance with, most importantly, some excellent views of birds. I decided having borrowed some Zeiss Victory FLs and using Swarovski ELs to add Victory FL 10x42s to our optics. My wife and I use both since 2012. I decided on the Victory model as I simply felt most at ease with it, though I wouldn’t like to say which is sharper in the field compared to the Swarovski. The FL glass does make a difference compared to the Dialyt and more bright detail is visible in low light - watching Hen Harrier coming in to roost at sunset in winter everything is visible. The build quality is excellent and the most important point is that I never feel distracted from birdwatching worrying about the binos( though my wife now does want to upgrade the 41 year old Dialyt!) Binos are not jewellery in other words as some have commented already! I will upgrade the Dialyts with either Swarovski ELs or Victory HTs probably as the NL range is too expensive for me and the comments here do make me hesitate about buying new models. Incidentally, I still use my Optolyth TB80 scope,, bought in 1986, except in the rain when draw tubes are a liability, and might upgrade this so I can use a scope in all weathers. I would comment, however, that in hot weather looking at distant Ospreys the heat haze meant the Swarovski 95 gave no better an image at 40x magnification. It’s what real world use is about. I have enjoyed the comments and clearly very experienced views on this thread - remember as a number of you have said, it’s watching the birds that is the key, albeit with the best most reliable gear you are most comfortable with.
Steve
Hi Steve, having been a Dialyt 10x40, an FL 8x42 and an Optolyth scope owner, I can only endorse your opinions. You will love an HT.
Lee
 

henry link

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I just had an opportunity to test a second pair of 8x42 NLs. One small detail caught my eye related to glare performance. The attachment end of the objective cover tether has been modified to prevent it from intruding into the exit pupil (see photo below). The original attachment was too wide and made the glare a bit worse with the objective covers attached. I'll probably call Swarovski on Monday about getting a pair of the new covers.
 

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ticl2184

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I just had an opportunity to test a second pair of 8x42 NLs. One small detail caught my eye related to glare performance. The attachment end of the objective cover tether has been modified to prevent it from intruding into the exit pupil (see photo below). The original attachment was too wide and made the glare a bit worse with the objective covers attached. I'll probably call Swarovski on Monday about getting a pair of the new covers.
How do you find your NL's compared to the EL Swarovision Henry..
I've been tempted to buy a pair of NL's and tested some of the first ones in September.
For me glare was an immediate issue.. Secondly I could clearly perceive an Absam ring. Thirdly the Diopter didn't lock and I had to readjust it.
Fourthly, the pricing was astronomical, plus a also a bit cheesed off that you can now buy a pair of 10x42 Field Pros for £1540. My point being that my pair of 10x42 Swarovisions cost me £1690 back in 2010, over 10 years ago 😡

Cheers
Tim
 

John Boy

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mmm, interesting article, the issues on focuser sounds off putting, but still going to try the NL's and see what I think of them.;)
 

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