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No eBird Taxonomy update this year (2022)? (1 Viewer)

MJB

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Very funny if they're really splitting Osprey right as IOC is lumping it back.
Some reasons for the uncertainty could be the undescribed population in China, revealed by genetic research, and the ground-nesting population along the Red Sea.
MJB
 

Mysticete

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Some reasons for the uncertainty could be the undescribed population in China, revealed by genetic research, and the ground-nesting population along the Red Sea.
MJB
There was some recent discussion in this subforum on Osprey taxonomy that was pretty interesting. Still a scarcity of good studies and the what little genetics info we have seem to suggest the IOC solution didn't fit the data.
 

Jeff Hopkins

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I don't think that's what's happened; it is exceedingly unlikely that eBird would "leak" changes in this way.

Instead, visit the eBird prefs page.

I'm fairly confident that you've set your Species Name Display to "English (IOC)", at which point you'd see exactly what you're seeing now. Set it back to "English (US)" (or whatever else you'd want).
For the record, I only saw this show up on a couple lists of daily rarities. My personal lists are as before. And at least one person who's list appeared that way is a friend of mine. He wouldn't enter it that way, so somehow the program must have output it that way.
 

raymie

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Are there any particularly interesting splits (from a North American perspective) likely in the checklist merge? I imagine they'll probably keep the splits of Fox Sparrow and Yellow-rumped Warbler?
 

njlarsen

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Update to be released on the 25th officially:

and until then, check this thread for things that might be happening.
Niels
 

raymie

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and until then, check this thread for things that might be happening.
Niels
Given this is the beginning of the checklist merge I think IOC's last few updates might be a better place to look.
 

Mysticete

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Are there any particularly interesting splits (from a North American perspective) likely in the checklist merge? I imagine they'll probably keep the splits of Fox Sparrow and Yellow-rumped Warbler?
As of the June 2022 WGAG update, neither Parulidae nor Passerellidae has been completed. So I would be surprised if there are any changes to Yellow-rumped Warbler or Fox Sparrow. Of the groups that have been tackled and which effect widespread native ABA area birds, we might see a split of Franklin's and Spruce Grouse, which one of the NACC checklists mentioned was already accepted by the committee. We might also see a split of Green-winged Teal, Northern Pygmy Owl, Barn owl and Orchard Oriole, since owls, ducks, and New World orioles have been completed and IIRC IOC/BLI already splits these species. Otherwise I don't envision many additional changes. Although I might have forgotten some. Might be one or two

(This of course assumes that these splits were accepted. IOC hasn't lumped them, but might be holding off anyway)
 

raymie

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As of the June 2022 WGAG update, neither Parulidae nor Passerellidae has been completed. So I would be surprised if there are any changes to Yellow-rumped Warbler or Fox Sparrow. Of the groups that have been tackled and which effect widespread native ABA area birds, we might see a split of Franklin's and Spruce Grouse, which one of the NACC checklists mentioned was already accepted by the committee. We might also see a split of Green-winged Teal, Northern Pygmy Owl, Barn owl and Orchard Oriole, since owls, ducks, and New World orioles have been completed and IIRC IOC/BLI already splits these species. Otherwise I don't envision many additional changes. Although I might have forgotten some. Might be one or two

(This of course assumes that these splits were accepted. IOC hasn't lumped them, but might be holding off anyway)
That was in June, is it possible that those families have been completed since then?
 

njlarsen

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Given this is the beginning of the checklist merge I think IOC's last few updates might be a better place to look.
I expect that for the 2022 Clements the majority of what is relevant for North America will come from NACC.
Niels
 

Mysticete

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I expect that for the 2022 Clements the majority of what is relevant for North America will come from NACC.
Niels
They have already stated that this update will also consist of alignments with the WGAC. They want to avoid a situation where they have to change a ton of things at once in ebird and presumably Birds of the World, and meter out the "shock" a bit from doing everything at once for users of ebird.

from the WGAC page: "eBird/Clements and IOC have begun adopting WGAC decisions with upcoming revisions of those taxonomies in order to facilitate the full transitioning to WGAC soon after the first public release." We've seen some of the IOC changes already, since they update more than once a year, but Clements only done a single update, so this should be the one with changes.

So it will have the NACC stuff but also some stuff from these decisions.
 

njlarsen

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They have already stated that this update will also consist of alignments with the WGAC. They want to avoid a situation where they have to change a ton of things at once in ebird and presumably Birds of the World, and meter out the "shock" a bit from doing everything at once for users of ebird.

from the WGAC page: "eBird/Clements and IOC have begun adopting WGAC decisions with upcoming revisions of those taxonomies in order to facilitate the full transitioning to WGAC soon after the first public release." We've seen some of the IOC changes already, since they update more than once a year, but Clements only done a single update, so this should be the one with changes.

So it will have the NACC stuff but also some stuff from these decisions.
None the less, I stand by my statement that in my expectation for North America the majority of changes will arise from the NACC decisions.
Niels
 

Mysticete

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None the less, I stand by my statement that in my expectation for North America the majority of changes will arise from the NACC decisions.
Niels
I mean, the checklists agree with each other probably 90% of the time. I think out of something like 700+ regularly occurring ABA species, there might be ten species or less with disagreement. So even if they completely finished and accepted the IOC/BLI splits fully, that would still be the case.

I assume Raymie is well aware of the results of the NACC proposals, and was mostly interested on if there might be anything else relevant.
 

raymie

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Ken Noble
There will be 10,906 species by the end of October, apparently. I find that the percentage of species I have seen falls with each taxonomic revision. Only about 9.6% now!
 

Mysticete

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Anyone spot anything weird yet?

Less than half of my lifelist is on Ebird, since I only started reliably recording by birding trips in the last 7 or 8 years. So obviously I might not notice some of the changes. However, it looks like my Mouse-colored Tyrannulet has changed to Nesotricchas sp., presumably because it's getting split and they haven't assigned it to a proper species yet?

Also my Muscovy Ducks are now switched to domestic type, but that was expected.
 

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