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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Troubador" data-source="post: 3453247" data-attributes="member: 109211">Pat, I presume you are asking if there is a reason to wait for Noctivid.I am a Zeiss enthusiast and am especially keen on SF but they are not above criticism although neither is any other bin. Things that I could critique SF for are its length, its rather cheap-feeling eyecups and perhaps a little lacking in contrast. Balancing these 3 points are SF's weight which is 80 grams less than Nvid, its eyecups do the job and have had an extra click stop added (although I think the Leica offers more adjustability) and I find the Zeiss view bright and lively.I am intrigued by Nvid but not for nature observation reasons. I don't quite understand how it has achieved a moderate 3D effect but Henry has offered a convincing explanation. I think Nvid would be a terrific choice for anyone who loves scanning landscapes, seascapes and cloudscapes as I am sure its 3D effect would enhance the experience.But for nature observation I am not sure what Nvid brings to the table although I should repeat here that when I tried it the weather was really dull so I may not have experienced it at its best. For me SF 8x42s two great strengths are its handling and balance, which allows me to view my beloved Otters for longer without arm fatigue and its huge field of view which facilitates scanning of large areas of sea and sky and also helps to capture fast and erratic insects like dragonflies and butterflies.Good luck with your choice.Lee</blockquote>

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