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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BruceH" data-source="post: 3660624" data-attributes="member: 106398">My experience was the same as what Peter experienced.  I tried the 10X is April and had just could not get good eye placement.  Then a second try of both the 8X and 10X in August and it went better but still the eyecups were to short for the eye relief for me.  As I recall, the eyecups have a non standard way of twisting out.  I seem to remember observing the second time that when fully twisted, they retract a little.  I think Lee posted on this but I cannot find the post.  Maybe a Noctivid owner can prod my failing memory and clarify.  Anyway, I may not have had them fully extended the first time but I still had issues the second time, just not as bad.   The Leica rep told me in August that Leica had heard about this from some folks and were working on some kind of extension.  Then a few weeks later someone posted that an extension was available.  I have heard nothing after that.  Does anyone have any updates or information on if Leica came out with something to help us non eye glass viewers?</blockquote>