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Message: <blockquote data-quote="John M Robinson" data-source="post: 3722011" data-attributes="member: 61814">These optics are so expensive and so excellent overall, that it is really disappointing when they don't work for the individual user. Like you I love the optics of most Leica products. I've compared them at length to Zeiss, Swarovski and Nikon and personally prefer the Leica look with Nikon a close second. I'm sure I'd be happy using any of the above for the rest of my life, but at the prices these carry, I hold out for the best (to me) binocular.I'm like you in another way, it would drive me nuts to ruin the view of my "alpha" optics by looking at them through my glasses, so I remove my glasses when using my Ultravids. I'm fortunate in a couple ways, 1) my eyeglass prescription is relatively minor, +1.25 left + 1.5 right, so I'm well within the focus range of the Leica's. 2) The shape of my face, deep set, narrow IPD eyes, fit the 42mm size Leica's great. Very easy view, no blackouts.On the other hand, as much as I love the view, the 32mm size Leica's don't work for me. Another surprise is that even though a lot of people have blackout issues with the Nikon SE's, I don't. They fit me perfectly, very easy view. All this just goes to show how personal this all is to the individual. What is a very disappointing deal breaker for one person isn't even an issue to someone else. We all know binocular design is complicated and full of compromises. I'm sure the major manufacturers carefully analyze the market when they seemingly place an arbitrary line such as number of diopters beyond infinity, eye relief or close focus distance. That line will rule these bins out for anybody past that line, the question is, how many is that?</blockquote>

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