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Presumably photographers? correct you may be but not something you should be assuming.
Secondly I am told permission was sought and granted earlier this week.
the story goes a ranger came along, photographed the bird on the perches then removed them....pot, kettle.
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Oliver, I think you may have presumed too much, hearsay rather than fact, in your post. I would guess that the ranger took the photographs as evidence to support any actions by the landowner, and thus why the props were removed as a result of said actions.

Regards, Pat
 
Hooliganism was once described as 'the English Disease' and attributed to football supporters and lager louts among others. If accounts of the behaviour in North Norfolk in recent days are accurate, then birders are in danger of being added to the list.
 
Hooliganism was once described as 'the English Disease' and attributed to football supporters and lager louts among others. If accounts of the behaviour in North Norfolk in recent days are accurate, then birders are in danger of being added to the list.

What utter Bollocks. Dressing up as a mature heap and having the Fieldcraft of a drunken Baboon might be annoying, but does not as yet, as far a I know constitute a wildlife crime! If you actually want to look at real threats to the countryside, focus on policy related to building and fracking, which have massive long term implications.
As for a few blokes dressed in green climbing a fence and rearranging a few sticks, it is not actually crime of the century! Please put this storm in a teacup into perspective. Cheers.
 
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Well said Mark!
In any large group of disparate individuals there will always be a few who lose perspective / self-control. I have been taking a non-birding photographer friend along to a few 'good' birds this Autumn (to expand his horizons!) and he has been pleasantly surprised how friendly the majority of birders are, compared to what he had been lead to believe here and during his walks around as an RSPB voluntary warden. He was delighted by the friendliness of people like Richard M, Lee E, Mick S and Richard 'The Hat', all of whom took time to chat and explain things! Just my personal experience of the present situation....
 
Oliver, I think you may have presumed too much, hearsay rather than fact, in your post. I would guess that the ranger took the photographs as evidence to support any actions by the landowner, and thus why the props were removed as a result of said actions.

Regards, Pat

Oh not suggesting otherwise Pat. Just what was mentioned to me by someone present at the time when I asked if the perches were still there :)

Cheers
 
What utter Bollocks. Dressing up as a mature heap and having the Fieldcraft of a drunken Baboon might be annoying, but does not as yet, as far a I know a wildlife crime! If you actually want to look at real threats to the countryside, focus on policy related to building and fracking, which have massive long term implications.
As for a few blokes dressed in green climbing a fence and rearranging a few sticks, it is not actually crime of the century! Please put this storm in a teacup into perspective. Cheers.

Good effort... but not even the edited version is anywhere near good enough for a wily old trout to rise to your bait.
 
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vj_Os-plXc I struggle to see the link you suggest between football violence (see video) and a few birders climbing a fence and moving some sticks? Please enlighten me you wily old trout!

It's good to note that no one has yet attempted to deny there is an unruly element in present-day birding. Despite your flattery, I am unable to provide any enlightenment on the scale of the problem.

"How can anyone be enlightened? Truth is often all so poorly lit."
 
It's good to note that no one has yet attempted to deny there is an unruly element in present-day birding. Despite your flattery, I am unable to provide any enlightenment on the scale of the problem.

"How can anyone be enlightened? Truth is often all so poorly lit."

Other than establishing you do not like people dressed in green climbing fences, not really sure you have established anything!
I will be totally convinced of your argument the day I see a group of birders approaching the hides at Titchwell, dressed in Country innovation, sporting tilley hats, swaro bins and scope packs at the ready, uttering the words "your going to get your ******* head kicked in." I am sure this would be front page news in Birdwatch and perhaps even the EDP who headlines normally refer to a cake competition at Dereham!
In the meantime you old trout you might have to reconsider your arguments, not that any really existed.
 

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