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Norfolk birding (2 Viewers)

Dave Hutton

Warwickshire Birder
Give him a break Dave he only got Garden Warbler and Knot as a lifer this year ;)

John

Talk about running before you can walk John!! Subalpine Warbler Lesser Grey Shrike 1st!! I hope he managed House Sparrow before everything else 8-P Probably explains a lot of our dodgy reports or is that all R.S ;)
 

Ilya Maclean

charlatan
Got roped into a bird race on Thursday, competing against the Crème de-la Menthe of UEA young hopefuls. Not my usual cup of tea, but quite fun. Clocked up 148 species in the end including Lesser Pecker, LE Owl, Golden Pheasant, Redstart (4), Nightingale, Golden Oriole, Monties, Temminck’s Stint (4), Little Stint, Black Tern (3), Goshawk & Spoonbill (5). Not too bad I feel as there was minimal planning, no pre-day visits, no back up team and we did it too late in the year so missed what would normally be easy winter stuff or early spring migrants like Wheatear. We also beat our rivals by 11. Lunch break birding in the Brecks paying dividends, as we didn’t miss much there.

A quick visit to Rush Hill today produced a Little Stint, an Arctic Tern and a few Greenshank. No redfoot at Hickling though...:-(
 
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On-Firecrest

Stuck in a Rutt
Atleast 4 lovely Swallowtails at Strumpshaw fen today, making up for the complete lack of bird life, crowded hides and heavy traffic near long stratton.
 

matt green

Norfolkman gone walkabout
...and heavy traffic near long stratton.

Presumably all those twitchers finally found the delights of inland norfolk birding looking for the yank golden plover north east of Shotesham on RBA?;)

....sh*t I only live three miles down the road but currently the other side of the country till next week:-C

Matt
 

Ilya Maclean

charlatan
Presumably all those twitchers finally found the delights of inland norfolk birding looking for the yank golden plover north east of Shotesham on RBA?;)

....sh*t I only live three miles down the road but currently the other side of the country till next week:-C

Matt

Went to see it today. I'm fairly sure it's just a normal golden plover (mantle too finely specled with golden colouration). No disrespect to Andy Musgrove who found it - it's a funny looking bird and in anycase, he (and John Marchant) reidentified it as an EGP.

Realised I missed telling the highlight of the race day - 3 baby otters playing under the bridge at Santon Downham for half an hour!!!
 

kittykat23uk

Well-known member
Went to see it today. I'm fairly sure it's just a normal golden plover (mantle too finely specled with golden colouration). No disrespect to Andy Musgrove who found it - it's a funny looking bird and in anycase, he (and John Marchant) reidentified it as an EGP.

Realised I missed telling the highlight of the race day - 3 baby otters playing under the bridge at Santon Downham for half an hour!!!

Hi Ilya,


Sounds like you had a great time! We had an aborted attempt to go birding at Strumpshaw Fen- absolutely jam packed with steam rally participants. :-C So after a bit of um-ing and ah-ring we ended up exploring the very short walk here:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.s...=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

Along the river. Best we could manage were a sparrowhawk, green and Gt Spotted woodpeckers, treecreeper and a common sandpiper which flew past. A few warblers were signing on the other side of the river but proved elusive.
 

Ilya Maclean

charlatan
Hi Ilya,


Sounds like you had a great time! We had an aborted attempt to go birding at Strumpshaw Fen- absolutely jam packed with steam rally participants. :-C So after a bit of um-ing and ah-ring we ended up exploring the very short walk here:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.s...=4&ar=Y&mapp=newmap.srf&searchp=newsearch.srf

Along the river. Best we could manage were a sparrowhawk, green and Gt Spotted woodpeckers, treecreeper and a common sandpiper which flew past. A few warblers were signing on the other side of the river but proved elusive.

Was that along Marriot's Way? I've cycled along that path a few times, but not for a while now - in fact I got bitten by a dog there, which fortunately just ripped my trousers:)

There's some good Nightingale habitat a bit further along, and also back towards Norwich (at Sweetbriar), which certainly used to have Nightingales. Also, you used to get Lesser Spotted Woodpckers near there - once, one was sharing the same tree hole as a Great Spotted! Some of the fields near there strike me as looking quite good for Quail, but have never really gone looking in the evening
 

Ilya Maclean

charlatan
Anyone else think conditions look good for drift migrants on Sunday/Monday! Perhaps a few Red-backed Shrikes, while surely Icky, Common Rosefinch and Bluethroat have to be possiblities. Outsiders, perhpas more Red-footed Falcons, Thrush Nightingale, Rustic Bunting...

Cheers,

Connor

It's a bit too crap on the continent (it needs to be clear so the birds set off in the 1st place). There are clear patches over Scandinavia, so fingures crossed....

Off to the coast now...
 

kittykat23uk

Well-known member
Was that along Marriot's Way? I've cycled along that path a few times, but not for a while now - in fact I got bitten by a dog there, which fortunately just ripped my trousers:)

There's some good Nightingale habitat a bit further along, and also back towards Norwich (at Sweetbriar), which certainly used to have Nightingales. Also, you used to get Lesser Spotted Woodpckers near there - once, one was sharing the same tree hole as a Great Spotted! Some of the fields near there strike me as looking quite good for Quail, but have never really gone looking in the evening


No, its not Mariotts way, there are a couple of short public footpaths off Low road which is the road that takes you from Marl Pit lane up to Taverham. One goes down along the Wensum to a rather shabby boardwalk- but its really short. The other path is on the other side of the road, but we haven't explored that way yet (doubt theres much there though looks like its as short as the other one). Been a couple of times along Sweet briar area birding but no lesser spots. It would have been too early for nightingale though so might try again sometime soon.
 

NoSpringChicken

Well-known member
United Kingdom
We had an aborted attempt to go birding at Strumpshaw Fen- absolutely jam packed with steam rally participants.

I went to Strumpshaw yesterday but, as I had to work first, we didn't arrive until 4 o'clock and drove straight into a parking space. The woman in reception asked us how the car park was and I was a bit surprised and said "fine".

As On-Firecrest said there was a complete lack of birdlife at first and we walked all the way through the woods without seeing a single bird. We then continued along the road to Buckenham Marshes and there was precious little there. That's unusual as there are normally lots of tits and finches along that road.

Things picked up later with Cetti's, Willow, Sedge and Reed Warblers, Reed Buntings and flocks of Long-tailed Tits. We walked to Tower Hide and flushed a Cuckoo from a bush right in front of us. From the hide we had some great views of four Marsh Harriers in the air at the same time including a couple of beautiful males. There were plenty of Swallows and Swifts flying about and a couple of Common Terns fishing.

A couple of Chinese Water Deer on the return journey meant that the visit wasn't too bad in the end. Beats working anyway.

Ron
 

Andy Musgrove

Well-known member
Shotesham goldie

Went to see it today. I'm fairly sure it's just a normal golden plover (mantle too finely specled with golden colouration). No disrespect to Andy Musgrove who found it - it's a funny looking bird and in anycase, he (and John Marchant) reidentified it as an EGP.

Yes, quite an interesting day yesterday. After a leisurely start, I took the dog for a walk around the village and stumbled across a Pluvialis plover in a sugar beet field. Bit surprising for late May. Through bins it looked grey and long-winged so I legged it home and soon returned with scope and books. After a long look and a long phone chats with various folk I put the news out as a possible American Goldie, with a request for backup. Early views of some other observers also tended towards AGP, but we couldn't get the underwing and soon views got rather distant. Eventually, John Marchant felt it was a Eurasian GP on structure, albeit a colour he'd never seen before. Seeing as John wrote the book, I'm happy to listen to his opinion!

I returned alone at dusk and "encouraged" the bird to fly a few times, but it flew low each time and it was difficult to see the underwing. On balance, I think it was more white than grey. More importantly, however, the flight call was rather monosyllabic. So I think it is a Eurasian, but a very odd one.

I don't think the small amount of golden spangling on the upperparts is a problem Ilya - this would be expected for AGP (obviously, EGP and PGP are more consistently golden and less cold black/grey/white). The overall colouration of the bird is strikingly cold. The main problem (aside from the hidden underwing) was the difficulty in assessing the wing formula. To identify the different goldies, it is important to look at the relative position of the tips of primaries, tertials and tail. However, this was clearly a first-summer bird which had dropped several tertials and whose primaries were extremely worn, which made it very hard to clarify the wing formula.

Anyway, the bird was still present in the same field Sunday morning. Leaving Shotesham on Roger's Lane towards Saxlingham Nethergate, the bird has been in the first cereal field (beet I think) on the left, about 500m from the village. It seems to favour the south-west end of the field. Please view from the road (park sensibly in the layby) or from the public footpath on the west side of the field.

I've got some poor photos but a visiting friend has finally taught me how to use my camera correctly for digiscoping, so I'll try to get some better ones a) if it stays and b) if it stops raining.

Cheers

Andy Musgrove
 

Ilya Maclean

charlatan
Andy Musgrove said:
I don't think the small amount of golden spangling on the upperparts is a problem Ilya - this would be expected for AGP (obviously, EGP and PGP are more consistently golden and less cold black/grey/white). The overall colouration of the bird is strikingly cold. The main problem (aside from the hidden underwing) was the difficulty in assessing the wing formula. To identify the different goldies, it is important to look at the relative position of the tips of primaries, tertials and tail. However, this was clearly a first-summer bird which had dropped several tertials and whose primaries were extremely worn, which made it very hard to clarify the wing formula.

Agreed - wing formula and underwing colouration are the diagnostic features and it was a very greyish bird. It's just that on the (few) AGPs I've seen, the the pale 'golden' fringes on the tertials and scaps are wider and form a more uniform band round the edge of the feathers as opposed to a series of dot like markings, giving a more coarsely patterned appearance. Compare this photo of an EGP,

http://animalpicturesarchive.com/ArchOLD-7/1191223504.jpg

with this of an AGP for example

http://www.gpnc.org/images/jpegs/animals/ploverAG.jpg

I assumed that this was diagnostic, but actually I'm not that sure how consistent this is across age, sex, plumage etc or individuals for that matter. Just the immediate impression I got (aside from the strikingly greyish plumage) of the bird at Shotesham was the fine speckled appearance and course speckling is something that's immediately struck me on the few AGPs I've seen in the UK, Ireland and America. Will need to look into it in more detail sometime....

Anyway 'Blue' Fulmar past Walcott this eve, close enough to see the bill markings! Got quite excited about that as it's the first definate one I've seen
 
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sacha

Well-known member
Popped to Pensthorpe today for some pre springwatch birding. Amongst everything you'd expect was a nice if slightly ragged Red (black?) Kite over the wader scrapes.
sounds like the same bird that i saw close by the previous day. Its one of the London Zoo Red x Black hybrid things!
 

Connor Rand

Norwich resident, Holme devotee
2 Manx Shearwaters past Holme NOA in 4 hours by midday, also a 'Blue' Fulmar. For a full trip report and other recent sightings from Holme see my blog...

Cheers,

Connor
 

Ilya Maclean

charlatan
Possible Short-toed Lark????

Coming back of Blakeney Point this evening, about midway between the grounded boat and half-way house, I flushed a possible Short-toed Lark, but was unable to relocate it before dusk (some of the details and directions on my website).

I unfortunately didn't see it all that well, and as such, am making no claims whatsoever and wouldn't have made the sighting public at all, if I wasn't stuck at work all week and unable to look for it again myself. Consequently, it seems a little irresponsible not to alert people to the possible presence of one, which is the reason I've stuck details on my website.

Make of the sighting what you will, and please do take it with a big pinch of salt, but if you feel inclined to look for it on the off-chance, PM me and I'll fill you in on all the details.

Cheers

Ilya
 
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Connor Rand

Norwich resident, Holme devotee
A cracking evening as I managed to see the Citrine Wagtail at Titchwell RSPB and then J.G and myself found a female Red-backed Shrike on the patch at Holme. For a full trip report and photos of both see my website...

Cheers,

Connor
 

dave123

Well-known member
Coming back of Blakeney Point this evening, about midway between the grounded boat and half-way house, I flushed a possible Short-toed Lark, but was unable to relocate it before dusk (some of the details and directions on my website).

I unfortunately didn't see it all that well, and as such, am making no claims whatsoever and wouldn't have made the sighting public at all, if I wasn't stuck at work all week and unable to look for it again myself. Consequently, it seems a little irresponsible not to alert people to the possible presence of one, which is the reason I've stuck details on my website.

Make of the sighting what you will, and please do take it with a big pinch of salt, but if you feel inclined to look for it on the off-chance, PM me and I'll fill you in on all the details.

Cheers

Ilya

a red-throated pipit been seen at halfway house today, could this be what you saw?
 

Paul Eele

Well-known member
For those of you that didn't manage to catch up with the wagtail here is a shot of it passed onto me by one of the reserve visitors. The icing on the cake after a good day including a flyover crane, 3 Temminck's still present, curlew sand, drake garganey and RC pochard, 2 spotted flys, bittern showing well from Fen Hide and a good number of passage waders.
Anyone plannig to visit tomorrow should be aware that we need to clear the tall vegetation in front of the Parrinder Hide so there will be some disturbance for a short period from 7am.

Found the great reed @ Minsmere and now a citrine wag, lets hope number 3 is the big one!

Paul
 

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