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ben_lewis
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Reed and sedge warbler reported today too
I had a quick walk around the woodland and have never seen so many mice/voles before here, good numbers of grass snakes too.
In case anyone saw the orange neck ringed greylag geese earlier in the month they were last seen on the reserve on roughly 4th March and had returned to Birsay, Orkney by the 13th March. The migration of Greylags is a pretty new one to me, interesting though.
MICK SAUNT
Well-known member
More red kites
At least three today on east/north-east coast with different birds at Northrepps, West Runton and Winterton although only managed to see one of them. If winds stay in the east should be more before the end of the week.
Mick
At least three today on east/north-east coast with different birds at Northrepps, West Runton and Winterton although only managed to see one of them. If winds stay in the east should be more before the end of the week.
Mick
Lightthiscandle
David Bryant
Watched one circling over Tescos by the A14 at Cambridge on Saturday!
firstreesjohn
Well-known member
'Ibex' or 'Hotels' ?
Seriously, the none-too sacred Wikipedia has 'ibises', with the collective plural 'ibis' and the classical plurals ibides and ibes.
I wouldn't be scarlet with embarrassment, not knowing the above.
A quick sally out this afters, following far too much 'homework', witnessed the pair of Stonechats again in situ at Gramboro'.
A Bee-fly (imagine a 3-foot wingspan one of these: ouch!) posed nicely at Walsey, as did a slightly frayed Comma.
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PYRTLE
Old Berkshire Boy
Tape luring Schedule 1 breeding birds - Please please cease.
I was told today of the following. On Saturday a minibus of birders at a site in Norfolk who walked out into a known breeding area of a scarce species, asked if any of the birds were about and then commenced to use not one but several audio devices to try to get a response. What on earth are these idiots thinking? I urge anyone who witnesses such a scene to please point out the error of their actions firstly and if needbe take details of registrations and report to the authorities. This has to stop and we all need to consider how we go about our hobby. Thank you. P
I was told today of the following. On Saturday a minibus of birders at a site in Norfolk who walked out into a known breeding area of a scarce species, asked if any of the birds were about and then commenced to use not one but several audio devices to try to get a response. What on earth are these idiots thinking? I urge anyone who witnesses such a scene to please point out the error of their actions firstly and if needbe take details of registrations and report to the authorities. This has to stop and we all need to consider how we go about our hobby. Thank you. P
Smallburgh Frames
New member
I am really pleased that they did not have cameras!
Mark Batten
Well-known member
What makes you think for a second that they did not have cameras!!
O.Reville1989
I started off with nothing and I've still got some
Chances are they probably did! I just hope this wasn't a certain site that is local to me....
john miller
Well-known member
If we are talking about the same site, yesterday there were about 8 people wandering through the vegetation at least 80yds away from the footpath and within the terratory of breeding birds. Please if anybody visits, the cut areas are for wildlife not extentions of the footpath.
The only camera in sight was mine!!
John
RobLucking
Well-known member
The number to call to alert the authorities is 101, the non-emergency number for Norfolk Police. Once through, quote Operation Compass. This is the ongoing initiative led by Norfolk Police, and supported by Norfolk's conservation bodies, to respond to incidences of egg collectors and disturbance of protected species.
We're lucky in Norfolk to have a police force that takes wildlife crime seriously and to have some committed Wildlife Crime Officers who investigate incidences of wildlife crime as a voluntary duty on top of their ordinary policing roles.
Rob
We're lucky in Norfolk to have a police force that takes wildlife crime seriously and to have some committed Wildlife Crime Officers who investigate incidences of wildlife crime as a voluntary duty on top of their ordinary policing roles.
Rob
Mark Batten
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In respect of the tape luring discussion this is often used by birders visiting abroad. Some guidelines here http://www.rpsnaturegroup.com/page7.htm
Are there any occaisions when the use of tapes are considered ok? Note, before any "RSPB fellows" suggest I am advocating the use of tapes in the breeding season, I am not :eat:
Interesting discussion with a Norfolk birder today in respect of how Red Kite will fare given the large number Buzzards already present. In Oxfordshire good numbers of both species co-exist alongside each other.
Are there any occaisions when the use of tapes are considered ok? Note, before any "RSPB fellows" suggest I am advocating the use of tapes in the breeding season, I am not :eat:
Interesting discussion with a Norfolk birder today in respect of how Red Kite will fare given the large number Buzzards already present. In Oxfordshire good numbers of both species co-exist alongside each other.
kittykat23uk
Well-known member
Hi,
thought Norwich folks would like to know that I just had a red kite glide over my garden on Marl Pit Lane, heading over towards Costessey area.
All the best
Jo
thought Norwich folks would like to know that I just had a red kite glide over my garden on Marl Pit Lane, heading over towards Costessey area.
All the best
Jo
john miller
Well-known member
I mentioned this last year, think re the Gt Snipe. I can remember reading that some survey workers play a short burst of song to locate breeding birds. A short burst usually results in an answer, if no further tape is played the bird considers it has seen off a rival, which strengthens its territorial behaviour. If more tape is played there is a chance the bird could consider the rival stronger and desert.
However this is not for the casual birder/photographer as a licence would be required, in theory to disturb almost any species in this way, not just Schedule 1 species.
Out of the breeding season however dont think there is any harm in attracting some species with a tape, ringers often do it.
As I said not sure where I read it but think it could have been a RSPB publication.
John
David Norgate
Well-known member
A very sensible comment and approach!
PYRTLE
Old Berkshire Boy
Perhaps this type of incident won't occur http://devonwildlifecrime.blogspot.co.uk/ if we all pull together. But it's reassuring that the boys in blue have had and continue to take such matters to their rightful conclusion and as the WLO commented, it's far better not to do so.
Mark, The link took me to the Royal Photographer's site, could not find anything on tape luring - can you elucidate further? Cheers.
Thanks Rob.
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ben_lewis
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The only time I can think of is for Water rail breeding surveys, where a brief WA call is played and the number of males calling back is recorded.
Nick Moran
Well-known member
John - you may be thinking of this recent RSPB news item discussing the use of 'tape' luring in a project studying Ring Ouzels: http://www.rspb.org.uk/news/309579-mp3-players-used-in-the-quest-for-rare-bird
The BTO issue 'Schedule 1 Disturbance Permits for the purpose of Ringing & Nest Recording'. These are issued on an annual basis - i.e. these do not grant the holder permission to use lures or approach nests for more than the breeding season in question - and are species specific - the holder does not therefore have carte blanche for luring / approaching the nests of all Schedule 1 breeders. Furthermore they are often restricted to geographic areas defined by grid squares.
The permits are issued for the purposes of scientific study, and there are a number of examples where the use of playback is essential (e.g. colour-ringing Firecrests to monitor adult survival - they are effectively impossible to catch without playback, and attempting to do so would generate considerably more disturbance than the judicious use of sound recordings).
The permit should be carried whenever the holder is in the field (not left in the car / at home!), and you have every right to request to see it if you find someone disturbing a Schedule 1 species Mar - Oct (or Nov in the case of Barn Owl). As always (though not always apparent in the comments/suggestions on various forums/threads on this matter), be polite in any such circumstances, and also be aware that your approaching someone may in fact cause more disturbance - particularly frustrating if the person has spent some time carefully approaching a nest so as to monitor it safely. Common sense should prevail
Cheers
Nick
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