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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lancey" data-source="post: 175855" data-attributes="member: 6800">No Sign TodayDear all,I've enjoyed reading your posts about the Cardinal which hasn't been seen so far today apparently. There were several cats prowling about when I was there and this fate may well have befallen a Northern Oriole which wintered in a garden in Oxford in 2003/2004. For that bird, several hundred birders descended upon the garden in question with an array of stepladders, crates and boxes with a view to seeing over the tall brick wall surrounding the garden in question. It was worth it just to see the innovation on display. Even better when the bird perched in trees viewable from the pavement. I certainly know more now than the first pager message about the Cardinal which said 'pale pink colour indicative of escape'. It is all too easy to follow the crowd and take everything one reads as true without finding out the facts for oneself. My personal philosophy is to see the birds that interest me and to remain open-minded. I'm happy for others to see what they want and wouldn't condemn anyone for doing so. Alas, not everyone shares my 'live and let live' view but that's up to them - life's too short. However, should a crimson Northern Cardinal appear at a docks in the UK I would imagine I'd not be alone in seeing it!                   Thanks again,                                 Lancey</blockquote>