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Northern Germany Bremer Harfen 2x Gull I.D? (1 Viewer)

Thomas H

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Good evening everyone. Another one that I Need confirmation on as this whole Gull complex has me a Little unsure about correct I.D's?

Photo 1 for me is a Argentatus in my opinion. Herring Gull although it is hard to say how light Grey Argenteus should be? I believe that the pink legs and the plump look should be right for Herring gull. Also the red seems to be confined to the lower mandible....

Photo 2 & 3 for me is a Lesser black Backed Gull; Probably type graellsii as Idon't think the Grey is dark enough for Fuscus. Although certain things about this gull are bothering me....Would love to hear what the experts think?
 

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