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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ali909" data-source="post: 3372477" data-attributes="member: 136899">Hi, I'm ali909 from Norman, OK. I watch bird all the time and truly enjoy it. I'm definitely a novice but have been identifying birds from my books for about 7-8 years. About 2 weeks ago, I saw 3 birds fly into a tree directly to my side and the morning sun was on them. They were a buff color over most of their body, had a long sharp beak that was dark, long tail feathers, a collar that was faint at there neck.  I kept thinking I was hearing blue jays until I saw them. Not long enough for a picture but I can not find them in any bird book. These bird were heavier bodied and were about somewhere in the 12-15" in range.If anyone can help identify I would appreciate it. I've been searching for two weeks and have gotten nowhere. I have seen new species in my area in the last few years but so far been able to identify.Thank,Ali</blockquote>