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<blockquote data-quote="PScofield" data-source="post: 4030796" data-attributes="member: 128262"><p>I found an interesting US Border record showing Rafael Montes de Oca Artist visited the US in the 1850s and on this record he was born in 1827.</p><p></p><p>Attached also is a Death certificate for a Rafael:</p><p></p><p>AGE:63</p><p>BIRTH DATE: 1824</p><p>DEATH REGISTRATION DATE: 25/Dic/1887</p><p>DEATH REGISTRATION PLACE: Guadalajara Jalisco México</p><p></p><p>The dates are believable but the location is not ideal but perhaps he retired to Guadalajara. As usual, I cann't really read the detail.</p><p></p><p>I also add an even more surprisng record that I believe is our Rafael. Born 24 Oct 1830 in Jalapa (as in post #1). But this Rafael is a US Citizen!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>P</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PScofield, post: 4030796, member: 128262"] I found an interesting US Border record showing Rafael Montes de Oca Artist visited the US in the 1850s and on this record he was born in 1827. Attached also is a Death certificate for a Rafael: AGE:63 BIRTH DATE: 1824 DEATH REGISTRATION DATE: 25/Dic/1887 DEATH REGISTRATION PLACE: Guadalajara Jalisco México The dates are believable but the location is not ideal but perhaps he retired to Guadalajara. As usual, I cann't really read the detail. I also add an even more surprisng record that I believe is our Rafael. Born 24 Oct 1830 in Jalapa (as in post #1). But this Rafael is a US Citizen! P [/QUOTE]
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