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Do Peucedramidae (olive warbler) and Arremonops (Olive sparrow and family) have English names? For example Trochilidae = Hummingbirds and Laridae = Gulls.
Do Peucedramidae (olive warbler) and Arremonops (Olive sparrow and family) have English names? For example Trochilidae = Hummingbirds and Laridae = Gulls.
I guess, yes, warbler and sparrow
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Are you one of those people who thinks the genera Peucedramus and Arremonops (and a fortiori the family Arremonidae) should change their names, Ocotero and Towhee respectively?
Olive Warbler and Olive Sparrow are not in the same family as other Warblers and Sparrows, and no, I am not wanting to change any names, just trying to find English translations.
Peucedramidae = “olive warbler”. (No plural for monotypic families)
Arremonidae = “American sparrows” (John Boyd). I guess “new world sparrows” would work as well
Cheers
James
Is "Arremonidae" a family now? I thought New World Sparrows were Passerellidae. Even if Arremonidae was a family, its type genus would be Arremon, not Arremonops.
You are correct. The family is Passerellidae. I should have used the word genus.
The Olive Warbler is the only bird in its family so I guess "Olive Warbler" will work for a family name as well as the species.
North American Sparrows are in the family Emberizidae, which does not include the Olive Sparrow which is in the family Arremonops which live in Central America and South America. Perhaps I will call them "Southern Sparrows" or something like that. There does not seem to be an English name for them.
In fact, Arremonidae has priority over Passerellidae. See this thread :
https://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=281807&page=2
Interesting. Surprising that there has been no effort to have any of the main taxonomic committees accept this change.
The Olive Warbler is the only bird in its family so I guess "Olive Warbler" will work for a family name as well as the species.
North American Sparrows are in the family Emberizidae, which does not include the Olive Sparrow which is in the family Arremonops which live in Central America and South America. Perhaps I will call them "Southern Sparrows" or something like that. There does not seem to be an English name for them.
That’s not correct (see Dan’s post). Genera like Arremonops do not generally have English names.
Cheers
James
Difficult to change habits XD
it just requires someone to do it.
But they're not Sparrows, as Sparrows are PasseridaeWhat do you call an English name? sparrow is not an English name?
Olive Sparrow is part of the New World Sparrow family, Passerellidae, which includes all North American sparrows.
But they're not Sparrows, as Sparrows are Passeridae
Could call them all Arremonopsids?
Or, from the difference between Passeridae and Passerellidae, how about from Sparrows to Sparrellas? 3