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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bluespiderweb" data-source="post: 3707474" data-attributes="member: 114337">Well, no, I meant to include the SE's.  After all, they are a premium Porro, and my 8x30 SE seems to outperform my EII, for sharpness alone.  That is what I saw when I compared the two a while ago.  My SE's are stowed away, and I'm using my EII's, I don't really know why.  But I also like the EII's very much-not hard to like, for sure!  And the EII's are lighter, and more compact besides as well.Not sure if I would prefer any Habicht to the SE's, and I doubt it.  But I've never seen a Habicht Porro, so who knows which way I'd go, though the SE's are special too, just like the EII's.  I didn't say it to confuse the issue, or you, but I wanted you to know there is another player out there, though only as a used item, and not replaceable by Nikon if you need service.  But there are other repair shops that can handle Porro repairs too.  Something different and unique as well as the Habichts, is all.Waterproof the SE's are not though.  Splashproof is all! ; )</blockquote>