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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jring" data-source="post: 3370332" data-attributes="member: 133897">Hi,I care about weight and size too - weight more so since my backpack with optics on the plane usually gets way too heavy before being really full. That's why I usually go birding with an 8x30 E2 and not a full size pair - weight almost as low as the ultravid 8x30, dimensions are a little bit shorter than the UV (10.5 vs 11.6 cm) but quite a bit wider (16.5 vs 11.6 cm), height is a tie at 5.5cm.  And the E2 offers two selling points (in my opinion) that I don't get elsewhere - super wider field of view and the 3D effect at low distance. Plus it's a third of the price.There are drawbacks too, like missing water/dustproofing and the old-school looks (but actually I regard the latter as an advantage as it offers a built-in theft protection ;-)But I think all of the bins mentioned are of a quality where the differences in image quality get subtle and personal taste is the deciding factor.PS: Regarding the most memorable bins on a birder - when birding around Frankfurt I often meet a lady who very much loves her Zeiss 20x60S and carries it on a simple strap... she says that she saves the weight for the scope which can't be argued with...Regards,Joachim</blockquote>