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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ceasar" data-source="post: 3370518" data-attributes="member: 26155">Henry,Perhaps a lot has to do with the two Leica's I own.  Using the Leica 7x42 Trinovid BN still does make a difference to me when compared to my 8x42 Ultravid Blackline.   I don't know how much the weight difference is but I can feel a difference when I carry them around.  As a comparison I usually keep my Leica 7x42 Trinovid BN in the little zip leather pouch that came with it.  But there is a lot more room leftover inside when I carry my 8x42 Ultravid  Blackline it.  As you know it has a hard leather exterior.They are the same length as the 7x42 Trinovid BN and quite a bit thinner when fully closed.  The weight difference between them is readily noticeable.   For the record, from the technical data in their manual,  they are also 80 grams (nearly 3 ounces) lighter and 4mm shorter and have 1mm less depth than the standard 8x42 Ultravid HD.   (It may be about as small as it can be and still keep the same optics.)Bob</blockquote>