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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alexis Powell" data-source="post: 3370562" data-attributes="member: 5327">I'm not wanting to be argumentative, but to me, that means the weights were comparable (similar), whereas both the Zeiss and the Leica BA were heavy in comparison to the earlier Leica models. The Zeiss 7x42, while similar in weight, was physically larger than the Leica 7x42 BA.My point was that it was small and light for an optically "no compromises" bin, and was perhaps the first roof prism design to merit such a label. As it happens, making such a bin at that time involved going to the 8x32 configuration. The Zeiss 8x30 was a lighter bin, but it was not a "no compromises" bin. It was never considered a viable alternative for serious birding to using a full-sized bin, whereas the Leica 8x32 Utra Trinovid BA (and later Trinovid BN) gained such a following, much as the Swarovski 8x32 EL Swarovision enjoys today.Despite the hair-splitting above, I suspect we agree on much more than the merits of the Leica 8x32 Ultravid!--AP</blockquote>