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<blockquote data-quote="lorobolivia" data-source="post: 1979555" data-attributes="member: 91437"><p>We don´t use the name collector, we use the name slave-keeper. If one of those slave-keepers would go out and poach we don´t think they would tell. This may be the reason why none of the papers you read indicated a problem with poaching. Many of the articles regarding parrots are written by people who breed and sell those birds and because of that their opinion is not a valid one.....as soon as a species gets extinct the prices of those in captivity soar. </p><p> </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/soon-to-be-exparrot-extinct-in-the-wild-within-five-years-20100504-u71g.html" target="_blank">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/soon-to-be-exparrot-extinct-in-the-wild-within-five-years-20100504-u71g.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Species of animals got extinct with or without the presence of humans. The point is to not allow commercial activity to be the reason for extinction. </p><p>It is the same reason why we never should negotiate with terrorists. Negotiate with them and we will have to deal with many more acts of terrorism. The same is true for breeding birds in captivity. Allow one breeder, many others will breed. </p><p>But the most important point is, that it is not right to take away freedom from birds, who have been born to fly, unless we think that freedom is not worth anything. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We are not supposing that no bird species is at risk from climate change. We are supposing that climate change may me a convenient distractor from the fact, that breeding in captivity may be the foremost reason. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just imagine that humans wouldn´t be the dominant species on the planet and we would be in danger of extinction. Would we like to live in cages? Would we like to have our offspring taken away to be bred in captivity?</p><p>We have no doubt that using parrots for the pet market is the foremost reason for the decline of parrot species. This is not only violating the right to freedom of wild species, but it is also taking away biodiversity from the planet. If a species is gone from the wild, keeping it in zoos, doesn´t help anybody, but the owner of the zoo and his bank account.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lorobolivia, post: 1979555, member: 91437"] We don´t use the name collector, we use the name slave-keeper. If one of those slave-keepers would go out and poach we don´t think they would tell. This may be the reason why none of the papers you read indicated a problem with poaching. Many of the articles regarding parrots are written by people who breed and sell those birds and because of that their opinion is not a valid one.....as soon as a species gets extinct the prices of those in captivity soar. [url]http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/soon-to-be-exparrot-extinct-in-the-wild-within-five-years-20100504-u71g.html[/url] Species of animals got extinct with or without the presence of humans. The point is to not allow commercial activity to be the reason for extinction. It is the same reason why we never should negotiate with terrorists. Negotiate with them and we will have to deal with many more acts of terrorism. The same is true for breeding birds in captivity. Allow one breeder, many others will breed. But the most important point is, that it is not right to take away freedom from birds, who have been born to fly, unless we think that freedom is not worth anything. We are not supposing that no bird species is at risk from climate change. We are supposing that climate change may me a convenient distractor from the fact, that breeding in captivity may be the foremost reason. Just imagine that humans wouldn´t be the dominant species on the planet and we would be in danger of extinction. Would we like to live in cages? Would we like to have our offspring taken away to be bred in captivity? We have no doubt that using parrots for the pet market is the foremost reason for the decline of parrot species. This is not only violating the right to freedom of wild species, but it is also taking away biodiversity from the planet. If a species is gone from the wild, keeping it in zoos, doesn´t help anybody, but the owner of the zoo and his bank account. [/QUOTE]
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