Passerine bird identification-Northwest Turkey (1 Viewer)

[cduruk]

These photos are from the same area, same day.
The first two photos are of the same bird. I think it is a eurasian linnet, but I have some doubt on the bill. Is it too big for a linnet? Any other alternatives for this bird?
There are three birds in the third photo, I marked them. These were part of a flock with at least 50 birds. I think they are eurasian linnets too. But the heavily streaked back confuses me, that looks like a dunnock in a way, since we cannot see the bill. Any chance these are dunnocks? Any other alternatives for this bird?
November 2021, Northwest Turkey.
Many thanks in advance,

 

[Butty]

3. Centre+right = linnet.
No dunnocks in these photos.

 

[James Lowther]

First bird is a chaffinch
Cheers
James

 

[Rotherbirder]

First bird is a chaffinch
Cheers
James

... as is second. Agree with Linnets for 3.

RB

 

[James Lowther]

... as is second. Agree with Linnets for 3.

RB

Yes sorry, should have clarified, I meant first bird as shown in first two photos as suggested by the OP,
Cheers
James

 

[cduruk]

I would like to thank to all the contributors, including the ones agreeing by liking. To summarize, the first bird is thought to be a chaffinch, and the second a linnet. There has not been any other opinion or disagreement. Then I arrange my records accordingly. Best regards to all,