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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vollmeise" data-source="post: 3655041" data-attributes="member: 143821">You can't see what is hidden by foliage, but if you move slowly while watching from shorter distance, even those birds can be found as their heat image should partially flash between the leaves' gaps from time to time.I think a shorter lens should fit your needs best. Try to get a view through a Pulsar Quantum Lite XQ23V or sth compareable in that range if you don't need to shoot photos or want to interchange lenses.Cheers <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />Image attached: the five spots in the background I took by accident. I wanted to get another creeper right at the trunk but was too slow. The 5 blackbirds in a yew tree 50m away couldn't be seen with my bare eye as they didn't move, some bins did the ID job then.</blockquote>