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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Coronatus" data-source="post: 3256884" data-attributes="member: 133627"><pay £20,000 a day to come and watch Hen Harriers and of course stay in local hotels eat and drink in local pubs and restaurants creating jobs and pumping millions of £'s into the economy >I am not clear on the maths here. £20,000 per day for how many days? Two or three shooting days in August-November?  Lets call that ten or twelve days per annum? £240,000 in a good year.Birdwatchers come all year round even on Christmas Day. So that's only £657 we need to find between how many birders? Remind me what the average entrance fee for RSPB hides is?And of course, unless day trippers, these birders will need the same accommodations, pubs and restaurants as the 'shooters' and what is more they will need them for all the year not just the few times when there is a shoot. How many more millions is that worth to the local economy?I am not fooled by the argument that Shooting is necessary. It is merely to fund the Estate owners chosen lifestyle. It is inhumane to ask that Hen Harriers etc., have to pay the ultimate price to provide that lifestyle.</blockquote>