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<blockquote data-quote="Björn Bergenholtz" data-source="post: 4077137" data-attributes="member: 113430"><p>As Linnaeus's <em>Phalacrocorax carbo</em> (1758) is the nominate itself I assume it must be of ssp. <em>P. c. carbo</em>. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as I know there's no "designated type specimen" (nor a Type locality) of this species [alt. (nominate) subspecies, neither of (the "Chinese" ssp.) <em>P. c. <a href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/209155#page/120/mode/2up" target="_blank"><u>sinensis</u></a></em> (Staunton, 1796)]. At least not in the Type collection at <em>Naturhistoriska riksmuseet</em> [Swedish (Royal) Museum of Natural History] in Stockholm (<a href="https://www.nrm.se/forskningochsamlingar/zoologi/samlingar/ryggradsdjur/typsamlingfaglar/icketattingar/phalacrocoracidae.3364.html" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>).</p><p></p><p>Linnaeus' first reference in the OD of "[<em>Pelecanus</em>] <em>Carbo</em>" [later moved into <em>Phalacrocorax</em> Brisson, 1760 (<u>not</u> Moering/Möhring, 1758)], in the long list of references (all earlier pre-Linnaean/pre-1758 works), takes us back to his own: "<em>Fn. Svec</em>. 116" [<em>Fauna Svecica</em>, 1746, <a href="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/79987#page/74/mode/1up" target="_blank"><u>here</u></a>; listed as <u>No</u>. 116 (thus, <u>not</u> page 116), it's found on p.42], which (only) states (re. distribution/habitat/location): "<em>Habitat in maris Scopulis, arboribusque insidet</em>", which, to me (a non-Latin scholar) says something like "Inhabits rocky shores, situated upon trees" (or similar).</p><p></p><p>Either way, I think you can lean back. This certain bird (and topic) has been looked at, and dealt with, in the most minute detail, by several (many) acknowledged ornithologist and scientists.</p><p></p><p>Though, it's true that these Cormorants are "currently common around nearby Stockholm", but it was a completely different situation back in the mid-1700's. In those days Cormorants were a Rare sight (and certainly so in the vicinity of Stockholm and Uppsala). </p><p></p><p>In that Era Great Cormorants were mainly found in the southernmost parts of the country [even if it's known/listed as a "Swedish" bird/species, present in Sweden, far, far earlier; known in Swedish literature since 1555, as well as verified, confirmed from/in archeological (Viking Age) findings, dug up just outside Stockholm].</p><p></p><p>Björn</p><p> </p><p>PS. Allow me to share a short birding memory (even if of no taxonomic value what-so-ever), simply as this certain species was my very first finding of a "rarity", my own first (proud) mark in the local Bird Club community, back in the 1970's, when I was a teenager, a mere beginner, a novice with my first pair of binoculars, I had spotted three Great Cormorants (<em>storskarv</em>, in Swedish), in Lake <em>Möckeln</em>, inland Southern Sweden. When I told my older, far more experienced, birding pals about this observation, they shook their heads, and replied with skepticism; "No no no, you mean you've seen a <em>storskrake</em> [Common/Eurasian Merganser/Goosander <em>Mergus merganser</em>]". But nope, such they were not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Björn Bergenholtz, post: 4077137, member: 113430"] As Linnaeus's [I]Phalacrocorax carbo[/I] (1758) is the nominate itself I assume it must be of ssp. [I]P. c. carbo[/I]. ;). As far as I know there's no "designated type specimen" (nor a Type locality) of this species [alt. (nominate) subspecies, neither of (the "Chinese" ssp.) [I]P. c. [URL="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/209155#page/120/mode/2up"][U]sinensis[/U][/URL][/I] (Staunton, 1796)]. At least not in the Type collection at [I]Naturhistoriska riksmuseet[/I] [Swedish (Royal) Museum of Natural History] in Stockholm ([URL="https://www.nrm.se/forskningochsamlingar/zoologi/samlingar/ryggradsdjur/typsamlingfaglar/icketattingar/phalacrocoracidae.3364.html"][U]here[/U][/URL]). Linnaeus' first reference in the OD of "[[I]Pelecanus[/I]] [I]Carbo[/I]" [later moved into [I]Phalacrocorax[/I] Brisson, 1760 ([U]not[/U] Moering/Möhring, 1758)], in the long list of references (all earlier pre-Linnaean/pre-1758 works), takes us back to his own: "[I]Fn. Svec[/I]. 116" [[I]Fauna Svecica[/I], 1746, [URL="https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/79987#page/74/mode/1up"][U]here[/U][/URL]; listed as [U]No[/U]. 116 (thus, [U]not[/U] page 116), it's found on p.42], which (only) states (re. distribution/habitat/location): "[I]Habitat in maris Scopulis, arboribusque insidet[/I]", which, to me (a non-Latin scholar) says something like "Inhabits rocky shores, situated upon trees" (or similar). Either way, I think you can lean back. This certain bird (and topic) has been looked at, and dealt with, in the most minute detail, by several (many) acknowledged ornithologist and scientists. Though, it's true that these Cormorants are "currently common around nearby Stockholm", but it was a completely different situation back in the mid-1700's. In those days Cormorants were a Rare sight (and certainly so in the vicinity of Stockholm and Uppsala). In that Era Great Cormorants were mainly found in the southernmost parts of the country [even if it's known/listed as a "Swedish" bird/species, present in Sweden, far, far earlier; known in Swedish literature since 1555, as well as verified, confirmed from/in archeological (Viking Age) findings, dug up just outside Stockholm]. Björn PS. Allow me to share a short birding memory (even if of no taxonomic value what-so-ever), simply as this certain species was my very first finding of a "rarity", my own first (proud) mark in the local Bird Club community, back in the 1970's, when I was a teenager, a mere beginner, a novice with my first pair of binoculars, I had spotted three Great Cormorants ([I]storskarv[/I], in Swedish), in Lake [I]Möckeln[/I], inland Southern Sweden. When I told my older, far more experienced, birding pals about this observation, they shook their heads, and replied with skepticism; "No no no, you mean you've seen a [I]storskrake[/I] [Common/Eurasian Merganser/Goosander [I]Mergus merganser[/I]]". But nope, such they were not. [/QUOTE]
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