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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rotherbirder" data-source="post: 3510156" data-attributes="member: 120871">Identifying anything from poor, hastily taken images can be a risky business, especially when it comes to difficult and/or easily confused species. Quite often, identifications are requested/expected from a single, blurred, distant image, complete with digital artifacts; equally worrying, some responders profess to be able to identify to species with certainty from these images! When it comes to Phylloscopus warblers for instance, good, sharp images showing primary projection, emarginations etc are often required to make a certain ID and even then it can be difficult. Arguably, your time would be better spent watching the bird, making notes & developing your field skills rather than blundering about trying to get photographs which might not come to anything anyway! The same problem exists with insects, where very few certain identifications to species can be made from images and even when they can, the images must be sharp, preferably macro shots taken from a variety of angles so that all features & combinations of features can be assessed. Don't kid yourself that photos can never lie!RB</blockquote>